PSA-Piedmont Merger?
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SegmentKing
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would ya'll rather have Republic, which BOUGHT your planes & gave your jobs to a high schooler?
Remember when Mesa bought CCAir -- everyone kept their jobs! *amazing* Would have been nice to have Republic extend that courtesy.
Remember when Mesa bought CCAir -- everyone kept their jobs! *amazing* Would have been nice to have Republic extend that courtesy.
Yea I Remember when Mesa bought CCAir and they destoyed a company that had a good working contract, Good Company and good people!! That was a dark day in aviation history!! And you poor Mesa folks didn't support a pilot group that was willing to stand up too JO!! They grabbed the ball and ran with it, and all you folks did was stand there and bragged about how much more flying you were gonna get!!! So yea!!! We Remember!!
Sooooooooooo Pleeeeeaassseee!!!
Can you elaberate on your comment about LCC taking there outs on the Dash's? What, if any thing would replace the Dash's?
Prince of PAWOBs
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One of the interesting possibilities of merging PSA and Piedmont is the integration of ground operations between the two. This, IMO, is very bad for the PSA ramp and gate personnel. After waiting five years to finally get a new CBA that a majority of the agents could agree with, and considering how much experience the average PSA agent has versus the average Piedmont agent (excluding those who are ex-PSA now working in CLT or PHL, which actually constitutes only a handful of agents), all of that experience stands to be diluted by the potential dissolution of the IBT CBA and the process of "rehiring" PSA CSA's. Once such a process begins, agents who have worked for years at PSA may end up not being "rehired" by Piedmont, or worse being "rehired" at much lower rates of pay and a loss of seniority.
I'm not denegrating the contribution or work ethic of Piedmont employees per se, although CLT seems to go through a lot of employees, and PHL is a sociology course in itself. Even with the silliness of SHARES and reduction of flying out of PIT, PSA is holding its own quite nicely. I doubt many flight crews have extremely negative views of how the ramp at PIT Express operates. That would have the potential of extreme change once PSA ramp and gate were eliminated.
Leaving the status quo in place in this instance would make far more sense than creating even more company-wide upheaval right now.
I'm not denegrating the contribution or work ethic of Piedmont employees per se, although CLT seems to go through a lot of employees, and PHL is a sociology course in itself. Even with the silliness of SHARES and reduction of flying out of PIT, PSA is holding its own quite nicely. I doubt many flight crews have extremely negative views of how the ramp at PIT Express operates. That would have the potential of extreme change once PSA ramp and gate were eliminated.
Leaving the status quo in place in this instance would make far more sense than creating even more company-wide upheaval right now.
Step one:
US Airways has appointed Robert E. Martens as Senior Vice President and President, US Airways Express. In his new position, Martens, 61, will oversee the US Airways Express program, which consists of 2,300 daily flights and includes nine regional airlines. He will have direct oversight of the airlines’ two wholly owned regional subsidiaries, Piedmont Airlines and PSA Airlines, and will report to US Airways President Scott Kirby.
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Is this the same Robert E. Martens that was the President of American Eagle back in the 80's?
Yup.
Let me be clearer. They have outs on both the CRJ200 and the Dash's. So far they have only taken the 200's (for obvious reasons). Weather they choose to take the outs on the Dash's down the road is anyone's guess.
If they did return dash's, CRJ's could do many of the runs and they could bring in PDT to do the Ski stuff.
Again, it looks so far that they are just interested in getting rid of the money losing 200's as fast as they can.
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For selfish reasons I hope US Airways Express continues with a Dash fleet. Teenie tiny Colgan Air could soon be operating more Q400's (up to 45) for Continental in the northeast and mid-Atlantic than Piedmont currently operates Dash 100's and 300's.
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Nuclear Holocaust!!!
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Well then maybe those jobs would revert back to mainline since they were just another piece of the cost-cutting pie that were snatched from mainline, one of the many things taken from mainline over the years, and considering all of the other givebacks mainline has endured over the years, it would be a bit of justice...Besides why a company would want 2 separate work groups doing the same job in the same station. That just breads inefficiencies....
I'm sure the company could save millions by combining the 2 groups and eliminating overlapping workforces and real-estate........
Prince of PAWOBs
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I think the Piedmont scenario is far more likely. It's cheaper for US (in their fantasy world) to deal with non-union workers who can be fired at will as opposed to allowing even more unionized employees on the property. This already occurs in PHL and CLT, so the company obviously doesn't mind having two workgroups doing the same job at the same station.
Depending on who I talk to, the entrance of PSA into PIT over 13 years ago has as much to do with taking work away from Mainline as it does with staffing issues related to actually working on commuter aircraft by the same work group. Some say it was taken away to pay others a lower wage; others say the desire by Mainline to work those flights was lackluster at best. Either way, the situation now shows that the wage gap between PSA and Mainline is a bit narrower than it was, although still wide enough to be noticed. Mainline is working Express aircraft (Republic E-170's and 175's), so the work on Express aircaft is no longer exclusive to PSA. And in my opinion, PSA's relationship with Mainline in PIT has greatly improved over time.
Introducing a single entity to work Express and Mainline aircraft could work well with Mainline recalls and transfers along with recurrent training, assuming there are enough employees available for such a scenario (perhaps moving PSA agents to Mainline employment might work; I know I wouldn't mind). Introducing Piedmont, however, would be a huge step backward, IMO. Those reasons were stated earlier in the thread.
Don't you know that Roachs & Rats will be the only thing around after a Nuclear Holocaust.
