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Buck, on 12 Apr 2015 - 6:55 PM, said:
Then please explain how Right to Work affects the airline industry, in Oklahoma and possibly those in the TWU at the Tulsa Base?
OldGuy@AA, on 13 Apr 2015 - 5:19 PM, said:
So since Right to Work doesn't hurt you personally but it destroys other union members in Oklahoma it's not a bad thing? RTW is just an example of the anti union crap that the GOP pushes. They have changed the bankruptcy laws so big business can screw the workers. And they have made the Railway Labor Act slant so far toward the airline management it is impossible to get a fair deal. These two issues have affected you.
Buck, on 13 Apr 2015 - 6:33 PM, said:
I do not believe I ever stated that RTW was good or bad. Now you are defending these RedNeck Yokels you were slamming just the other day. "See Ment" and "Po Dunk Hell Oklahoma" If the GOP has legislated the labor laws so that the RLA is slanted toward Airline Management, then where is your savior they call the President and and the Congress that had control for the last 6 years? Why have they not changed these horrifying laws?
OldGuy@AA, on 13 Apr 2015 - 5:19 PM, said:
So since Right to Work doesn't hurt you personally but it destroys other union members in Oklahoma it's not a bad thing? RTW is just an example of the anti union crap that the GOP pushes. They have changed the bankruptcy laws so big business can screw the workers. And they have made the Railway Labor Act slant so far toward the airline management it is impossible to get a fair deal. These two issues have affected you.
OldGuy@AA I think we can both agree that the TWU is an abysmal failure.
Do you feel it is right to force an employee to join and pay a failure UNION as a condition of employment? Prospective employees put in an application to AA not TWU.
Being in a UNION is a business transaction.
The problem with the TWU is they don't have to earn their keep. It is either their way or the highway.
A UNION like any other service one pays for should have to earn their keep. There is nothing wrong with expecting a return on investment and having a closed shop takes away any motivation the TWU has to perform well.
If the TWU was effective people would WANT to be members.
People that are for RTW are not necessarily anti UNION, they just don't want to be trapped in a situation similar to what the TWU has created. They want a choice.
Let me ask you this OldGuy@AA, and correct me if I am wrong, but the TWU is protected from RTW by the railway labor act correct?
Can you honestly say you have seen any benefit to that?
I am not trying to change your mind. I am just asking that you consider the possibility that having a closed shop removes any motivation a UNION may have for performance and enables a cycle of incompetence and laziness as UNIONs coast on their closed shop status.