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I still cant figure out if seniority boarding is such a bad thing how I managed to make it to about 35 countries and ?? number of trips across the US and Canada and still make it there and back? 😉
I never realized before what a problem it was to travel like that.
Worked at US without problems for 20+ years...

I've traveled several trips in the past few months and have done both systems. I really dont care which way it goes since I was number 1 or 2 listed on the HP flights I was on and had my seniority on the US flights. My problems are as follows.... on the HP flight this past week while trying to check in early in the am, I got the response my eticket was invalid and I had to check in at the ATO to get it corrected. Wrong answer. Nothing was wrong with it, and I wasnt driving 3 hours before the end of my vacation to get an ATO agent to correct it. The system didnt work period. For that I might have been penalized on checkin time? How is that fair? I've also heard from agents trying to check in in Europe with their laptops that the system was down (luckily they were seniority checkins and not FCFS or they would have been out of luck).
Also with the West system, can any agent advise me how to transfer a standby from one city (PHX) to the standby list for another city (LAS) without losing the time of checkin? I havent been told a way to do this (and I've asked) and if there is one, I might be a little more convinced this way is a little more friendly. The West basically had PHX and a LAS or two as far as connections. Try rerouting from CLT/PHL/PIT/DCA/LGA/BOS to try to get somewhere and losing your checkin time from the early am because you are now trying to connect in a different city because the flights were full. So each time you transfer to a different connecting city you start all over again? Is this correct or not? If so, how is this fair to someone who has been at the airport all day trying to get out only to get bumped by someone who checked in later on a later flight, but was ahead of your checkin because everything else was full?
Another trip, the flight left at 130pm which would have meant a 130am checkin time. We were staying in a private rental in the middle of Bermuda with no computer, computer access or phone access. For all the FCFS people, you're going to tell me to stay somewhere that has WIFI and a free computer to use next time right? lol
If my flight is leaving at 700am and I'm out at dinner enjoying my last night of vacation, I'm supposed to stop whatever I'm doing and find a computer to run to and list? If I'm leaving at 3pm, you're really expecting people to get up at 3am and get on the list and go back to sleep? How is this nonrev friendly? It sounds crazy.
I dont know why everyone is so paranoid out West about seniority boarding. All 20000 of us arent going to be trying to get on the same plane with you anyway. Everyone always has the argument about everyone running up at the last minute and "bumping" you down. This can happen now with someone else using their SA1s at the last minute anyway so whats it really matter that you are the first SA3 on the list if someone is dragging their family of 6 along on an SA1? Also, we have been hiring like crazy recently so anyone who has been around for a year or so should have a couple thousand? under them already. I know we have about 25 in my station alone that have less than a year.
 
You have no way of knowing where you stand with FCFS, either, when there's 30 SA3's listed and 30 SA3's checked-in and only 15 seats available!
You are correct--until the day of the flight you don't know exactly where you stand, but if there are 30 SA3P's and only 15 seats available, you know you need to check in fairly early.

But .once you check-in you DO know your status. The check-in site lets you see exactly how many SA3's are checked in for the flight.
 
Try this on for size. Since so many of us on the east are senior to your entire airline, let us get on by seniority. The rest of you, those in the west, can duke it out fcfs. I can live with that.
 
Rumor? or Fact?

Supervisors in Florida say the Non-Revenue issue has already been decided. Shortly, it will been loaded into the computer system.

............FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED.

It's already been decided. Dougie wants HP procedure.

Anyone at US feeling like a step-child yet?
DOUG KNOWS BETTER AND DOES NOT WANT THE EAST TO COME TO A HALT!!!!!!! THE MONEY MAKERS ARE EAST!!
 
Bad Management, 9/11 and Fuel.

And it was 2002 and 2004 when US filed Chapter 11, that is a two year period.
 
:unsure: Please correct me if I'm wrong,if we go with--FCFS-- to be on a level playing field- If two different nrsas are going to FCO, one lives in PHL the other in LAX, the PHL nrsa would have to travel out to LAX a day prior in order to use the 12-hour ckin window for the flight to PHL that conx to the PHL FCO flight. It would seemed to me that anyone living in the hub would always be at a disadvantage...
 
FCFS is not bad. I actually prefer it 'cause I travel with friends who are new. If we go by seniority, it would suck 'cause my junior friends will get on last.
Plus the company has to get competitive in order to get the best employees. Monster.com, Intel etc. and other companies are located here. If we go by seniority, people wouldn't want to work for us. Maybe the flight attendant jumpseats can go by seniority!
What the heck does this have to do with a non rev? An employee from monster.com or intel would not be traveling as a non rev!


I hope its first come first served.

Its actually FAIR!
And why is that?

did anyone read my post?. it has not been made yet.
I did etops!! :up:
 
DOUG KNOWS BETTER AND DOES NOT WANT THE EAST TO COME TO A HALT!!!!!!! THE MONEY MAKERS ARE EAST!!
Well, if people are gonna cause the airline to come to halt because of this kind of decision . .they're immature idiots.
 
Again....a HUGE majority of US east employees commute. A much smaller percentage of US west employees commute. By FCFS being implemented makes commuting for the more senior folks in inflight harder, guess where they are comming. Solve the problem for them then and go with FCFS. Again, it works for other carriers but they don't have nearly the percentage of folks commuting as USeast does compared to it's size. That is for sure. Nobody is shutting anything down. They will live with it when the decision is made. Either way.
 
Man..... is it going to be tuff to get a flight out on time ...I mean OT performance will go out with my moral..........Never again will I take the extra step that I take every day to get flights out on time.

My senority is all I have left...you take that we are done.
 
I can guarentee that Douggie will do whatever causes the fewest waves. This merger is so fragile that he does not want to anger a large group of employees. If he goes FCFS then that large group on the EAST coast will be upset. So go figure which way he will go.

Try this on for size. Since so many of us on the east are senior to your entire airline, let us get on by seniority. The rest of you, those in the west, can duke it out fcfs. I can live with that.

:blink: this does not make any sense :blink:
 
Man..... is it going to be tuff to get a flight out on time ...I mean OT performance will go out with my moral..........Never again will I take the extra step that I take every day to get flights out on time.

My senority is all I have left...you take that we are done.
Yeah, not getting your way in the use of flight benefits is certainly a good reason to not do your job ..
 
It is not just about commuters, many people still don't have internet access and many people who are on vacation do not have access to the internet also, that is one of the reasons Seniority should be used.

Then buy a laptop Dell has great financing deals. Time to move into the 21st century.

Man..... is it going to be tuff to get a flight out on time ...I mean OT performance will go out with my moral..........Never again will I take the extra step that I take every day to get flights out on time.

My senority is all I have left...you take that we are done.


If you behave that way you should be fired. Welcome to the real world!
 
Man..... is it going to be tuff to get a flight out on time ...I mean OT performance will go out with my moral..........Never again will I take the extra step that I take every day to get flights out on time.

My senority is all I have left...you take that we are done.


I am all for boarding by seniority...but...are you really that immature that you would stomp your feet and cry because you didn't get your way?

I assume you call yourself a professional?
 

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