Should US Airways reintroduce MetroJet

[fatherabraham]

Great idea on a new Metroyet , let's have only the pilots do it for less $ and give them some newly printed Metroyet stock as an incentive

 

[Pi brat]

Great idea on a new Metroyet , let's have only the pilots do it for less $ and give them some newly printed Metroyet stock as an incentive

Really. I was kinda thinking the whole airline is like Metrojet. I'm making $4 less an hour now than I did on that "discount" division 13 years ago!

 

[FWAAA]

So the real question should be "Should the Tempe brain trust reintroduce a full-service airline with at least industry-average pay?"

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

They can't afford industry average pay. For rank and file employees that i; the brass is another story.

It's the terrible route network, ya know. Or maybe the terrible management

 

[FM2436]

Should US Airways consider reintroducing an Allegiant Air type of US Airways Vacations (MetroJet???) operation? Allegiant has announced a return to Hagerstown Maryland. If Allegiant can pack a MD-82 with passengers by simply offering only twice a week roundtrip flights to Orlando, and appear to make a profit in these former commuter markets, why shouldn't US Airways do the same? Slap the name US Airways Vacations across the aircraft and select 15-25 smaller cities and fly twice a week O/D into Orlando.


http://articles.herald-mail.com/2012-03-22/news/31227598_1_allegiant-air-lack-of-market-demand-hagerstown-regional-airport

Allegiant has now announced non-stop service between AVP and Orlando. Is US Airways missing an opportunity?

http://ir.allegiantair.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=664881

 

[wings396]

We had ABE MCO years ago, and it did great. At the time they claimed that it wasn't profitable...

 

[700UW]

G4 doesnt fly into MCO, they fly into SFB which is Sandford, FL.

Also they nickel and dime for everything, even charge like $30 for a carry-on.

You cant compare US to G4, its apples and oranges.

 

[SS255]

Allegiant has now announced non-stop service between AVP and Orlando. Is US Airways missing an opportunity?

http://ir.allegiantair.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=664881

WN runs weekly charter flights from AVP-MCO, departing for MCO on Sunday morning and returning to AVP on Saturday night. This sounds like regular commercial air service. I guess they smelled an opportunity that US didn't smell. The hub-and-spoke model doesn't really allow for point-to-point route planning where opportunities may exist.

 

[nycbusdriver]

We had ABE MCO years ago, and it did great. At the time they claimed that it wasn't profitable...

Of course it wasn't profitable. It's because the greedy, overpaid, lazy slugs that Tempe has to put up with (known as the frontline employees who are setting one performance record after another.)

If only everybody would pay to come to work, ABE-MCO would have been handsomely profitable.

You just don't get the corporate American mindset.

 

[Move2CLT]

Really. I was kinda thinking the whole airline is like Metrojet. I'm making $4 less an hour now than I did on that "discount" division 13 years ago!

Maybe your union should get you a raise.

Oh, sorry. Touchy subject.

 

[767one]

But why doesn't this mgmt take advantage of opportunities ,, why don't we go from Bos lga dca to fl cities once at 9am. And to Chicago.

Why don't we go to the ski areas in the winter.

Why don't we have real service to Nantucket and mvy in summer.

So much revenue left on table

We don't need no stinkin revenue! We have employees to get it from!

 

[767one]

Way back when I was in the good graces of US Management we were told the following by someone at the Sr VP level, "If I could raise the bottom fare $30, I could lower the top price by $300". So there is some logic to the current approach. Where it falls apart is when you add in competition. DL, UA & AA all offer the business traveler more amenities for the same price. This is due to US's relative size compared to the other majors. As a result US has to do two things.

1. Manage costs. The numbers I've seen is that in order to maintain profitability they need to pay 13% less in order to maintain their margins. This also accounts for the non stop nickle & dime approach to ancillary revenue & relative lack of amenities.

2. They have to maximize the profitability of EVERY Flight on EVERY Route. If US does say 5 flights per day to a destination and 4 of those flight have above average yields and load factors and the mid day flight lags? It's gone and put on another route.

This is why Doug wants, seeks maybe even needs a merger or acquisition. US doesn't have the luxury of maybe making money flying to the ski resorts, FL & LAS from places like DCA, BOS & LGA. US is one bad year maybe two from being back to circling the drain again.

It would be nice to keep this place going until 2015 so I can collect my "Davey Dollars".

 

[767one]

Should US Airways consider reintroducing an Allegiant Air type of US Airways Vacations (MetroJet???) operation? Allegiant has announced a return to Hagerstown Maryland. If Allegiant can pack a MD-82 with passengers by simply offering only twice a week roundtrip flights to Orlando, and appear to make a profit in these former commuter markets, why shouldn't US Airways do the same? Slap the name US Airways Vacations across the aircraft and select 15-25 smaller cities and fly twice a week O/D into Orlando.


http://articles.herald-mail.com/2012-03-22/news/31227598_1_allegiant-air-lack-of-market-demand-hagerstown-regional-airport

I would be happy with service out of HGR but no carrier has stayed in the market long. I don't know about Allegiant but the other carriers were subsidized and as soon as the subsidy ended so did the service.

 

[dash8roa]

True, all. However, JB does BOS/NY to FLA cheaper - can't compete.
DAL is doing the chicago shuttle now. They can afford to throw money at it.
Seasonal service or servicing major events like mardi gras, ski resorts, etc are great ideas and IMO mgmt misses the mark on these.
Also, what about HPN, the wealthiest neighborhood in the nation? No mainline service?
John Wayne is another one.
US used to chase the first class fares, now just operates on volume sales at bargain prices.
Different management philosophy - one that has no clue about business travelers or the east coast.
Oh, and giving routes away to our Star cousins doesn't really help our bottom line, does it?
Cheers.

I am hoping for service from hvn to clt. The loads on the hvn-phl flights are good and the airport has upgraded the runway and cleared the approaches and added overruns.I was told clt express gates are maxed out,however the clt airport building project announced this week is said to include 12 more gates for the express concourse.
The local metro area can easily support 2 or 3 daily flights to clt.New haven is home to yale university,the yale cancer center and many universities and corporations within a short drive and the airport is minutes from I-95 and I-91.

 

[737823]

G4 doesnt fly into MCO, they fly into SFB which is Sandford, FL.

Also they nickel and dime for everything, even charge like $30 for a carry-on.

You cant compare US to G4, its apples and oranges.

The only similarity is that they are both awful, fly dirty antiquated planes, operate from dilapidated facilties, and have disgruntled employees. I can't imagine what your Star Alliance customers from ANA, Lufthansa, Singapore, and SWISS think when they fly USAir. Never flown Allegiant but I have plenty of experience on USAir.

Josh