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Henderfuzz

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Does anyone know the status of the grievance. I know the company asked for a injunction. Since than nothing.
No court dates no info from IAM nothing. This is just getting crazy. The longer this takes the longer we are all getting screwd. Im getting tired of it all and the many Ive talked with on the ramp from west and east are too.
 
The IAM is waiting for a court date, the arbitration is on hold just as the IAM told you at the begining of the week.

The ALPA case is differant it is a major/minor dispute, not a request for the arbitration to go forward.

The NC met in CLT last week to discuss where and when things are going.

Waiting to hear from the attornies and the court.

And it is not just a fleet grievance, it is a joint grievance for M&R and Fleet.
 
But what happened to the " slam dunk" you espoused, and if the company did not show up then a decision would be rendered in favor of the IAM????
why don't you just say IMHO, you speak as if you know everything and have never been wrong....
yet again....
Do you stalk the internet boards for your new employer??
 
The Arbiter, Richard Bloch said he would not show up in PHX if the company was not going to be present.

That is out of the IAM's control.

Last time I checked on this board anyone can post.

And I do have a stake in this grievance, thank you very much.

But hey keep trying to make it about me instead of the topic at hand, tells us all about you!
 
The Arbiter, Richard Bloch said he would not show up in PHX if the company was not going to be present.

That is out of the IAM's control.

Last time I checked on this board anyone can post.

And I do have a stake in this grievance, thank you very much.

But hey keep trying to make it about me instead of the topic at hand, tells us all about you!
hey, at least he didn't judge you as going to hell.

regards,
 
Gee a man of the cloth with his words of wisdom.

Where are you going since you screwed all of your coworkers in the early 90s which led US Air to the infamous bloodbath of the non-union workers at US?
 
Gee a man of the cloth with his words of wisdom.

Where are you going since you screwed all of your coworkers in the early 90s which led US Air to the infamous bloodbath of the non-union workers at US?

From my view, it was a cake walk compared to this crap.
Hated losing the pension though. Don't know either of your versions of the "blood bath".
I do know, for alot of people, they were gypsies, transfering from station to station just to keep their jobs. Is that not going on now?
Good luck to fleet. Most of you deserve it. Wish I was there.
 
Not sure
but according to the judges calendar on another post.
Usair is schd. for mar 15
 
Where are you going since you screwed all of your coworkers in the early 90s which led US Air to the infamous bloodbath of the non-union workers at US?


DON'T LET THE FACTS GET IN YOUR WAY


It was not Tim that caused the demise of fleet...rather it was fleet itself. There was a Teamster Contract that IMO was the best in the industry. And, no, that contract would not be here today. Our peers voted that they did not need a union, with the company spending millions to persuade them so. It took two votes...sound familair?

I just watched and listened to them when they lost everything. I still had 40 hrs. a week but lost everything else with them. They still rape every employee year after year.

Now, if the IAM has the b.lls you claim they have, lets see some results without waiting for another decade.

Regards,
PI :angry:
 
Wow a distorted view of History.

The IBT CBA only covered BOS, BUF, PHL and PIT.

If it was the best in the industry why did it cover only four cities?

Why were the four cities paid less then the non-union fleet service at US?

If it was the best in the industry, why was the IBT voted out at merger time?

And Tim filed short of cards and caused a one year bar on organizing and the company enacted the bloodbath of non-union workers in 1992.

Don't let the facts get in your way?
 
Wow a distorted view of History.

The IBT CBA only covered BOS, BUF, PHL and PIT.

If it was the best in the industry why did it cover only four cities?

Why were the four cities paid less then the non-union fleet service at US?

If it was the best in the industry, why was the IBT voted out at merger time?

And Tim filed short of cards and caused a one year bar on organizing and the company enacted the bloodbath of non-union workers in 1992.

Don't let the facts get in your way?

First off, 700aw was busting on you for no reason, so in humor I said what I said, you must have misread it.

Second off, I was one of the lead advocates and lead presenters to the NMB in establishing a second election for the IBT, and getting an interferance charge against your previous company.

Yes, I think I've done some things in poor taste but filing short on cards wasn't necessarily one of them. Actually it was a 'withdrawal' after legal counsel advised us that the company stacked the list of eligibles and that it was most likely justified.
At any rate, even after a short filing [if that's what you want to call it], the ticket counter still voted out union the next year anyways. So I'm not sure I follow your reasoning.

Filing short is common for all unions BTW, including the IAM. It's usually a result of a company 'stacking' a list, but I assume you know this so why do you make a big deal about this when even your 'own blood' does it?

700UW, we've been over the so called blood bath you speak of before and the only bloodbath that fleet has gone through is one with the IAM. At any rate, I would bet you the mortgage that if you allowed fleet service to vote to get everything they had in 1993 without the IAM, or vote for the quality of work like established by the IAM in 2007....over 95% would rather go back to the wages/benefits of 15 years ago. The IAM has accomplished nothing and only does what the company allows it or tells it to do.

Funny how you forget that 6 months after the IAM got voted in, it was the IAM that said fleet should take even more cuts and drop more blood. Thankfully, the stews voted out their contract so fleet never had to vote down the IAM bloodbath it wanted fleet to take, which included another 8% pay cut that would have put fleet down to $16 something.

Regardless of bloodbaths, we have seen the IAM can do nothing. In the bloodbath of 2003, your chief IAM loyalist canale quoted "We have a knife to our back and a gun to our head". Essentially he just washed his hands and 'punted' but not before pimping fleet service and 'cutting' fleet service by agreeing to a $48 million concession with the IAM pension. The IAM pension was the second biggest concession 'ever' taken by fleet as far as dollar amount goes.

The prevous 401k plan looks 'golden' compared to the 'entry level' IAM pension plan. At United, Canale didn't offer the entry level IAM pension plan, the United folk got an enhanced IAM pension plan. Kinda like Blue Cross/Blue Shield....different plans, just because it sez IAM pension, or Blue Cross/Blue Shield, doesn't make it a good plan. Any plan is always based on the contributions going into it.
Which do you think employees will prefer, a plan that puts in up to 10% of your earnings including overtime OR a plan that contributes a meager 4% of wages and caps it at 40 hrs if you're full time, and if you're part time [insert 40% of the workforce] you get doubly screwed with more limited contributions?

C'mon 700 do the math, it's basic second grade stuff, don't babble things just to stamp the IAM on something. You sound like the typical IAM loyalist that believes everything the IAM sez.
regards,
 
Not sure
but according to the judges calendar on another post.
Usair is schd. for mar 15
av60,
I must of missed the post you are talking about, can you direct me to it?
 
Seems to me that the company has put Judge Mitchell between a rock and a hard place.
It never ceases to amaze me, how long it takes our so-called judicial system to come to a decision.
I would like to be optimistic about the judge's decision, I mean the judge was there when the company, union and himself signed off on the contract!
I find it Pathetic that the company is even ALLOWED to crawl back to the judge.
I hope the judge takes into consideration that this company willingly AGREED to this arbitration.
I wonder, if it was the UNION that came back crawling to the judge, if he would respond in the same time frame ?
 

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