Target and Wal-Mart employee job action Black Friday

[delldude]

Wal Mart and its healthcare and its wages and its lack of unions can't be all that awful bad......Hillary Clinton, champion of the down trodden and poor was willing to be on the board.

 

[Force Majeure]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ten-companies-paying-americans-least-112523979.html

 

[signals]

There's nothing delusional about what I wrote. 22k isn't that much anywhere in this country... you might make "only 28k," but that's still a full 6k more than the example being discussed here. Your current lifestyle wouldn't be impacted if your income suddenly dropped $500/mo.?

On top of that you note that it's your base pay. Is there OT factored in to your income? Profit sharing? Performance bonuses?

And perhaps you missed my point, or you spun it. 22K isn't bad if you ACCEPT IT! Perhaps Wal-Mart and Target are targeting a certain worker, like perhaps retired, young at first job, and those who seek a second income. It should be noted that if the worker accepts the wage, it's not up to outsiders to say whether it is fair or not.

The airline industry is notorious at killing the company to demand more money. I find it laughable that everyone complains about how much the founders, CEOs, managers or what have you make, yet they don't get out there and CREATE jobs.

Yes, the owners are going to look at their bottom line because they took the biggest risk. They created the jobs, and our freedom gives us the right to just say NO and go elsewhere.

The bottom line is that it really isn't anybody's business what who makes where. Fix your own house, instead of throwing rocks as you live in glass houses!

Very clever, Kev, focusing on my OT which is the ONLY thing out of those other things you mentioned that I'm sure you get. My OT is few and far in between, because I turn most of it down. I believe 40 hours is enough time at my job that occupies 1/3 of my life already. Also, I usually turn overtime into comp time where I get 1.5 time-off for 1 hour work. I enjoy taking time off.

It doesn't matter what one makes, it matters knowing what to do withy what you got. You might not be able to survive on a 22k income in NYC, but you can live pretty well in Ithaca. We shouldn't play with people's lives by pointing out to them that the wage THEY AGREED TO isn't fair, and encourage them to rise and protest what THEY AGREED TO, because nobody wins when their income is $0.

Now commence a spinnin'...

 

[signals]

My guess is that the 28k is base pay...with commissions.  Not sure if it's a draw or not. Care to respond signals?  Because it's rather disingenuous to claim a base salary of $28k when your actual income is closer to $75k or $100k.   
 
My insurance has been $200 a month for the past 5 years.  And I don't live in NYC either.

See my above post. And care to tell us your annual income?

 

[signals]

And for the record...I left the airport and bid on a less paying job. At the airport I made 31K, so I took a cut. I have gone from a 150 mile roundtrip commute a week, to a 60 mile roundtrip commute a week. So I save on gas and wear and tear on my vehicle.

The job is less stressful since I don't have to put up with the idiots that come through an airport, so my sanity is much, much better.

SO I AM HAPPY MAKING LESS MONEY, NOW TELL ME WHY I'M WRONG ABOUT MYSELF!!!

 

[signals]

Google "how does Walmart affect communities." Some of you posters on here seem to be intelligent but somehow over the years you have missed how Walmart has moved to communities and wiped out small mom and pop stores. Educate yourselves on what Walmart really is about.

Oh, I'm sorry, I would much rather pay 50X more for a product to keep ma & pa in business. What you miss is that after mom & pop leave, the prices are still low because it is retail competing with retail now.

BTW, ma & pa have become cheap beer stores nowadays.

 

[KCFlyer]

And perhaps you missed my point, or you spun it. 22K isn't bad if you ACCEPT IT! Perhaps Wal-Mart and Target are targeting a certain worker, like perhaps retired, young at first job, and those who seek a second income. It should be noted that if the worker accepts the wage, it's not up to outsiders to say whether it is fair or not.

The airline industry is notorious at killing the company to demand more money. I find it laughable that everyone complains about how much the founders, CEOs, managers or what have you make, yet they don't get out there and CREATE jobs.

Yes, the owners are going to look at their bottom line because they took the biggest risk. They created the jobs, and our freedom gives us the right to just say NO and go elsewhere.

Now commence a spinnin'...

Well...the point I was trying to make was that I find it odd that people who TOOK the chance...the people who CREATED the jobs (in many cases THOUSANDS of jobs) take a paycheck that in the executive ranks amounts to little more than a car allowance.  It's the people who did NOTHING to create and grow that company that rake in a salary that is 500 times what the average worker earns.  Bill Gates never made more than a million dollars in salary and bonus.  And HE was the "job creator".  How come some clown who had NOTHING to do with the founding of a company is worth 8 figures - and in many cases CUTS jobs?  

 

[Kev3188]

And perhaps you missed my point, or you spun it. 22K isn't bad if you ACCEPT IT!

That's not what you said.

 

Yes, the owners are going to look at their bottom line because they took the biggest risk. They created the jobs, and our freedom gives us the right to just say NO and go elsewhere.

Um, no. America is a consumer economy. Supply and demand for products "creates jobs." Know what causes people to go out & buy stuff? Making more that 22k annually.
 

The bottom line is that it really isn't anybody's business what who makes where.

It is when the company is using roads my taxes paid for, a labor force my taxes paid to educate, taking tax breaks, and then shunting the workforce to Medicaid...
 

Very clever, Kev, focusing on my OT which is the ONLY thing out of those other things you mentioned that I'm sure you get.

I get profit sharing, and can probably count on my two hands the times I've worked OT this year. I like my time off too.


 

It doesn't matter what one makes, it matters knowing what to do withy what you got. You might not be able to survive on a 22k income in NYC, but you can live pretty well in Ithaca. We shouldn't play with people's lives by pointing out to them that the wage THEY AGREED TO isn't fair, and encourage them to rise and protest what THEY AGREED TO, because nobody wins when their income is $0.

Now commence a spinnin'...

No spin, I'm just interested in helping pull people up, instead of keeping them down. I'm also a big fan of buying local, since that money tends to stay in the community, and I recognize that in a consumer driven economy, a larger wage correlates into more spending and a larger tax base- you know for roads & schools, and the like. You apparently disagree.

 

[southwind]

And perhaps you missed my point, or you spun it. 22K isn't bad if you ACCEPT IT! Perhaps Wal-Mart and Target are targeting a certain worker, like perhaps retired, young at first job, and those who seek a second income. It should be noted that if the worker accepts the wage, it's not up to outsiders to say whether it is fair or not.

The airline industry is notorious at killing the company to demand more money. I find it laughable that everyone complains about how much the founders, CEOs, managers or what have you make, yet they don't get out there and CREATE jobs.

Yes, the owners are going to look at their bottom line because they took the biggest risk. They created the jobs, and our freedom gives us the right to just say NO and go elsewhere.

The bottom line is that it really isn't anybody's business what who makes where. Fix your own house, instead of throwing rocks as you live in glass houses!

Very clever, Kev, focusing on my OT which is the ONLY thing out of those other things you mentioned that I'm sure you get. My OT is few and far in between, because I turn most of it down. I believe 40 hours is enough time at my job that occupies 1/3 of my life already. Also, I usually turn overtime into comp time where I get 1.5 time-off for 1 hour work. I enjoy taking time off.

It doesn't matter what one makes, it matters knowing what to do withy what you got. You might not be able to survive on a 22k income in NYC, but you can live pretty well in Ithaca. We shouldn't play with people's lives by pointing out to them that the wage THEY AGREED TO isn't fair, and encourage them to rise and protest what THEY AGREED TO, because nobody wins when their income is $0.

Now commence a spinnin'...

Apparently you don't believe every job's compensation, in the U.S., should be able to support a family of four !

 

[signals]

Since SW cut in, my post is for Kev

Hmm. go blow for blow? I'll pick my battle.

What I said that you answered to was-22k isn't a bad wage unless you have to pay for your condo.
Sarcasm is lost on those intelligent beings that know so much more than most of humanity. If YOU AGREE to that wage, why didn't you foresee your bills?

Last I heard, the consumer is looking for a good price. Do you really think they'll buy a pricier product? Only in those with immense intelligence can that be a true statement. Supply and Demand sets the price of the product to, and Wal-Mart would go BK if it couldn't compete with Kmart and the rest. Then again, maybe some would just love to see the store cease to exist as they use their employees as sheep.

Hey, Kev, I got a great idea. Why don't we make YOUR WAGE THE MINIMUM WAGE? I would love to make what you make, and think about how much I can stimulate the economy.

And yes, Kev, I do shop local. I have to watch where I can save and local is great when it comes to groceries and such.

 

[Kev3188]

Hey, Kev, I got a great idea. Why don't we make YOUR WAGE THE MINIMUM WAGE? I would love to make what you make, and think about how much I can stimulate the economy.

Great idea! Let me know what I can do to help you make that happen.

 

[signals]

Write your Congressman.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Apparently you don't believe every job's compensation, in the U.S., should be able to support a family of four !

Something you will never have to worry about.

 

[southwind]

Great idea! Let me know what I can do to help you make that happen.

And please explain the unions latest slogan, "Living Wage"!

 

[KCFlyer]

Living wage - a wage that keeps someone above poverty level, and allows them to purchase goods and services that create demand and an in turn, create  jobs.