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Ted Cruz Announces

CMH_GSE said:
I see you graduated from the Dog Wonder school of fortune cookie arguments, congrats.

Your first post to this thread was Birther, awesome.
Your second post basically said he had no chance, equally awesome.

Bring some substance, it just makes a better discussion.
Congrats on repeating Ted Cruz talking points. Try thinking on you own for once. If you do that you might be able to see how different Reagan and Cruz actually are.

As for the birther thing if you had been paying attention you would have gotten the point I was trying to make
 
Here are some differences between Reagan and Cruz.

Reagan was extremely likable even by those who were ideologically opposed to him. Cruz on the other hand is detested by those in his own party.

Reagan said never peak ill of other Republicans, Cruz seems to go out of his way to do just that.

Reagan while religious was not an in your face evangelical like Cruz.

Cruz is an Ivy League elitist, Reagan was not.

For me the biggest difference that gets my attention is his comments about carpet bombing countries and making sand glow in the dark. Did Reagan say anything of the sort when he was running for President? At least Regan was willing to admit he made a mistake by sending the Marines into Lebanon. Cruz on the other hand seem to want to double down on what should be obvious with half a brain an extremely bad bet.
 
777 fixer said:
As desperate as you are to find the next Reagan Cruz is not it.
As desperate as you are to find the next Stalin, Sanders might fit the bill!
 
777 fixer said:
Here are some differences between Reagan and Cruz.Reagan was extremely likable even by those who were ideologically opposed to him. Cruz on the other hand is detested by those in his own party.
http://moneyrunner.blogspot.com/2015/03/remember-this-republican-establishment.html

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1338&dat=19760214&id=mlZOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=3vgDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2984,3181342&hl=en

When Reagan ran the first time in 76, he was treated worse than Cruz by the party.
When he ran the second time, the party still detested him, but they knew he had a lot of the electorate behind him.
 
777 fixer said:
Here are some differences between Reagan and Cruz. Reagan while religious was not an in your face evangelical like Cruz.Cruz is an Ivy League elitist, Reagan was not.
Maybe you can point out where Cruz is " in your face", I don't see it, or it hasn't bothered me.
Reagan, at the end of nearly every speech, would talk about America being " the city on the hill".
Where do you think that phrase came from?

So Cruz having verifiable scholarship is a negative?
You might want to expound on why being an Ivy leaguer is bad, very bad.
 
CMH_GSE said:
Maybe you can point out where Cruz is " in your face", I don't see it, or it hasn't bothered mr.
Reagan, at the end of nearly every speech, would talk about America being " the city on the hill".
Where do you think that phrase came from?

So Cruz having verifiable scholarship is a negative?
You might want to expound on why being an Ivy leaguer is bad, very bad.
why don't you ask him to explain how likable Hillary is and where she went to school? He's just another liberal hypocrite
 
777 fixer said:
For me the biggest difference that gets my attention is his comments about carpet bombing countries and making sand glow in the dark. Did Reagan say anything of the sort when he was running for President? At least Regan was willing to admit he made a mistake by sending the Marines into Lebanon. Cruz on the other hand seem to want to double down on what should be obvious with half a brain an extremely bad bet.
This one was too easy. Did you forget about the "Evil Empire" speech?
Every liberal was appalled, the rest of us were cheering.

And then there's this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5fOq9PYp8A

You also have to put in context of the times then and now.
If there was an ISIS running around while Reagan was running for POTUS, I suspect his speeches would have sounded differently.
I say this because I observed how he acted when we were threatened.
 
777 fixer said:
Congrats on repeating Ted Cruz talking points. Try thinking on you own for once. If you do that you might be able to see how different Reagan and Cruz actually are.As for the birther thing if you had been paying attention you would have gotten the point I was trying to make

And now, all of your Establishment , Anti-Cruz talking points have gone up in flames.
CMH, dude, you are on fire.

It seems the voters are figuring it out, if the polls are to be believed, we will know soon enough.
 
777 fixer said:
Here are some differences between Reagan and Cruz.

Reagan was extremely likable even by those who were ideologically opposed to him. Cruz on the other hand is detested by those in his own party.

Reagan said never peak ill of other Republicans, Cruz seems to go out of his way to do just that.

Reagan while religious was not an in your face evangelical like Cruz.

Cruz is an Ivy League elitist, Reagan was not.

For me the biggest difference that gets my attention is his comments about carpet bombing countries and making sand glow in the dark. Did Reagan say anything of the sort when he was running for President? At least Regan was willing to admit he made a mistake by sending the Marines into Lebanon. Cruz on the other hand seem to want to double down on what should be obvious with half a brain an extremely bad bet.
 
Your comparision of Reagan and Cruz is missing several key items.
Yes Reagan was liked, even by those who held ideological diferences, but those ideologues of that day do not compare at all with the party make up of today. What were moderate or blue dog Dems of the day have been chased out of that party which has gone extreme left today. Todays GOP party leans more blue dog dem/moderate than conservative...with a fondness for a litle progressivism on rye.Cruz and some 40 or so others lean more conservative than what we call establishment GOP and want to take the party back towards conservative ideals. GOP will have nothing of the sort, in both houses too.
 
I don't get cootied out when people speak of religion......I guess it bothers you and others.
 
Cruz doesn't come across as an elitist....if you want to try and squeak someone into that category, Trump may wear the suit a little better than Cruz. HC is an elitist no doubt.....if you need a barometer.
 
Glowing sand appeals to voters fraught with frustration over the decline both economically and militarily of the good old USA.
 
She went to Wellesley, one of the best colleges and the Yale for law school.

Great education.
 
No if she learned that it was from one of your RWNJs.
 
700UW said:
No if she learned that it was from one of your RWNJs.
 
Sorry Charlie, Saul Alinsky 101
 
"The third rule of ethics of means and ends is that in war the end justifies almost any means...."
 
CMH_GSE said:
This one was too easy. Did you forget about the "Evil Empire" speech?
Every liberal was appalled, the rest of us were cheering.

And then there's this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5fOq9PYp8A

You also have to put in context of the times then and now.
If there was an ISIS running around while Reagan was running for POTUS, I suspect his speeches would have sounded differently.
I say this because I observed how he acted when we were threatened.
 
I sure do.  NOw...outside of our archnemisis Grenada....how many times did Reagan deploy troops?  He TALKED big....but he wa pretty averse to military intervention.  How many troops did he send to Libya>    Cruz seems eager to deploy troops against....an entity called "terrorists". Not sure how he plans to do that without killing some innocents who AREN'T terrorists.  YOu don't win many friends that way.   And I'm a little turned off by a guy who seeks "values voters" at rallys where most in attendance are quick to say that  I am headed to hell for being a Catholic.  
 
The last truly religious president we had was Carter.   Reagan only wooed the evangelicals to get their votes. The evangelicals didn't support Carter  because he didn't try to push his religion on the country.  Reagan didn't try to push their religious values on the voters either, but after that, the right TALKED a good talk.  Indeed, in some stories I've read, while Ted is standing arm in arm with Kim Davis in opposition to gay marriage - it tends to LOOKS to those evangelicals that the first order of business for Ted will be to overturn gay marriage.  But Ted said it's not high on his list of things to do.    If it were OBama...they'd call him a liar.
 

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