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Temporary Injunction against USAPA filed today

God damn it you old codger! There is nothing secret about the remedy phase!! It comes with every grievance. You present your case and the arbitrator rules. You then figure out how to make the winning party whole. Its just like our court system.

Damn you can be a stupid f'er.

Any eastie with a stitch of common sense (obviously breeze lacks even a modicum of it) can ask anyone on your GC how the process works. And then ask her how long it typically takes to come to an agreement.

Damn breeze, go have a drink. Numb that stupidity up a bit.

BTW....no one on here appreciates the way you curse...whether it be God, Allah, or your mother. Knock it off.
 
Now...calm down.....maybe you need that drink, I am on my 3rd.

All I am saying is that I understand the remedy phase and, also, that she can't say anything about Kasher's judgement until it is legally released.....therefore, what is TP going to tell me that I don't already know?

breeze

PS....old codger? I still wrestle my 23 and 19 yr old sons to the ground and they are both bigger than me....wanna give it a try, junior? 😀
If you understand the remedy phase, then explain to your cohorts that they should not expect a payout in the following paycheck. I know for a fact that you've lost the arbitration and I wouldn't believe me either, but they need to understand that a win for them means nothing.

The company is waiting on the injunction and, once under its umbrella, will then announce the decision. An attempt to vent your frustration out on the company will be met with fines to USAPA and its officers.

Please, copy this post so you can reference it when this all goes down.

TP has the award. USAPA has asked for an executive session. You can call her and ask her that much. She can answer those questions but I doubt she'll want to.
 
One thing for sure, based on your comments here is that you have never been in a position of confidential responsibility…other than with your Mesa ID card. You don't understand.... nobody is ever bulletproof. I have already identified you with ease (and a little luck with a friend who could care less.) Guess you are just like the idiots that mailed the feces, or called the safety hotline with caller id. Busted. Not a C/O. Never a Grievance Chair. Time to change your name Toganoflex, or whatever you are today. Based on current economics, you might want to fill out that application at White Castle, or wherever you think you might fit in with your iPod, Justin Bieber doll, or whatever.

You keep saying to "call her." Yet you already supposedly know the results of the arbitration. Again..why do you keep hedging your bets? I am not buying the childish logic that you are scaring us straight. We can barely keep our Rascals charged. We don’t get you.

You don't know the results of the arbitration. Not possible until they are public. Any good Grievance Chair would know that. I don't need to make any "calls." My discussions are face to face. Consider this message your personal "remedy phase."

RR
Yawn
 
Glad you mentioned JB...all due respect to him and TP

I flew a trip with JB a few weeks ago. When we arrived at crew planning to return to the US, we found that our aircraft had an MEL that had been placarded and removed a few times over 6 weeks. I had flown that aircraft just a couple of weeks before. The MEL had a 10 day repair category, but the company kept taking it off MEL and returning it.

JB had a heated conversation with MX control while on the phone in Europe. He finally got off the phone and we were ready to head out to the aircraft. He told me that he had one more call to make. I was very surprised and proud of him when he called and woke up Yarcko at 2-3am EST and talked to him like he was a little kid.

That afternoon, I went to the hotel in Philly and flew another trip the next day. I ran into Yarcko and asked him about aircraft XXX. It was going into maintanence that evening and was grounded. That, folks is what it takes to get an aircraft repaired these days.

breeze



Mr. Breeze,


Sad to say you are exactly right and you have to fill out a nasa/event form almost every flight.

Regards,

Bob
 
.... We don’t get you.

You don't know the results of the arbitration. Not possible until they are public. Any good Grievance Chair would know that. I don't need to make any "calls." My discussions are face to face. Consider this message your personal "remedy phase."

RR


Someone joins only 30 days ago and has over 700 posts? They constantly bait the East to hate the West even more? They claim to have knowledge that implies they have an all knowing relationship and trust with the company who is now secretly sitting on the perfect storm of events (maybe the West poster even infers they are so deep within the circle of company trust they even helped the company dream up the perfect beat-down, mwaahahahaha <------evil laugh).. the LOA 93 decision is a total company win and thus is about to demoralize the East faithful but they will be stirred to unthinkable levels of rage, slowdowns, and shenanigans not seen since the days of Eastern (so says the sage-come-lately who has his move to CLT mapped out), but the company has the perfect ace... an impending injunction that will put a straight jacket on those who are about to be moved to a temper tantrum they could never even envision of themselves. The sage-come-latey howls, "Ohhhh, Oh, their impending pain is palpable! The glorious paralysis in the midst of excruciating pain that the East pilots and there impotent union will experience, all because they made stupid choices! Valhalla could have been theirs, but they chose poorly. Alas, they will never learn, but don't cry for them, because they chose it for themselves."

If you were management and longed for the days of ALPA cooperation, what story would you tell?

If you were an obsessed Westie longing for the days of ALPA, what story would you gamble on?

P.S. The company was being gracious to Capt Wells because they didn't want to embarrass her after her testimony...
 
There is so much fighting in between all of this......just wondering if there has been any decisions made by the judge on case with the company and union slowdown? If so, what did he say? If not....any time frame that can be expected?

Just ready to get on with life.


There was no union slowdown. The express division of your airline delivered worse performance statistics, yet no injunction was sought on them. It is a labor attack on USAPA by Franke Air. Typical of those trained by Franke, ie Doug Parker. The judge will soon slam this right back. By the way, several western posters claimed the injunction would be handed down the very day of the first hearing? Are these western perhaps the same lawyers that give misguided direction to their organization? Are they benefitting from the same fees they collect? Is there a pilot middle man lawyer siphoning off dues monies?
 
Someone joins only 30 days ago and has over 700 posts? They constantly bait the East to hate the West even more? They claim to have knowledge that implies they have an all knowing relationship and trust with the company who is now secretly sitting on the perfect storm of events (maybe the West poster even infers they are so deep within the circle of company trust they even helped the company dream up the perfect beat-down, mwaahahahaha <------evil laugh).. the LOA 93 decision is a total company win and thus is about to demoralize the East faithful but they will be stirred to unthinkable levels of rage, slowdowns, and shenanigans not seen since the days of Eastern (so says the sage-come-lately who has his move to CLT mapped out), but the company has the perfect ace... an impending injunction that will put a straight jacket on those who are about to be moved to a temper tantrum they could never even envision of themselves. The sage-come-latey howls, "Ohhhh, Oh, their impending pain is palpable! The glorious paralysis in the midst of excruciating pain that the East pilots and there impotent union will experience, all because they made stupid choices! Valhalla could have been theirs, but they chose poorly. Alas, they will never learn, but don't cry for them, because they chose it for themselves."

If you were management and longed for the days of ALPA cooperation, what story would you tell?

If you were an obsessed Westie longing for the days of ALPA, what story would you gamble on?

P.S. The company was being gracious to Capt Wells because they didn't want to embarrass her after her testimony...


This Move2clt is a paid Franke Air agent. Possibly a low level computer hack. Right out of the Franke Air manual, especially the godless rants. The only god to a true disciple of Franke is cash, and Franke himself. You would realize this if you ever had the misfortune to be employed formerly by Franke Air. I would say the level of fear being exhibited by the agents of Franke would be indicative of your impending pay raise.
 
Guys, I'm trustworthy. Don't listen to him.

I know reality hurts but you need to embrace it. Im up on all this stuff.

You're not getting snapbacks and Nicolau is not going away. You'll stay on LOA93 until you figure it out.

Maybe you're right. Who knows?

But through it all you will remain the second lowest paid pilots in the industry (although about 25% of east pilots are paid as much or more than you.)

So, be patient. You will have to remain near the bottom until we "figure it out." Which is no time soon.

Enjoy the ride.
 
Glad you mentioned JB...all due respect to him and TP

I flew a trip with JB a few weeks ago. When we arrived at crew planning to return to the US, we found that our aircraft had an MEL that had been placarded and removed a few times over 6 weeks. I had flown that aircraft just a couple of weeks before. The MEL had a 10 day repair category, but the company kept taking it off MEL and returning it.

JB had a heated conversation with MX control while on the phone in Europe. He finally got off the phone and we were ready to head out to the aircraft. He told me that he had one more call to make. I was very surprised and proud of him when he called and woke up Yarcko at 2-3am EST and talked to him like he was a little kid.

That afternoon, I went to the hotel in Philly and flew another trip the next day. I ran into Yarcko and asked him about aircraft XXX. It was going into maintanence that evening and was grounded. That, folks is what it takes to get an aircraft repaired these days.

breeze

He should have used the station telephone to call the FAA Hotline, too.

Time to get some of the pencil-whipping mechanics (probably all management types) into the fire.
 

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