The New Buddypass System Sucks!

[airlinedivalish]

I don't know about you guys, but the new buddypass system is not good.

From 40 passes to 8 ? THat's not improvement.

They reduced it.

 

[tahitigirl]

In the eight years I've been with US I've only used 3 buddy passes.

I do like the new price of the passes. In the past the tickets were not a great deal. I bought one for a friend of my son in march for MBJ, and it cost almost $200 .

Unless the person is traveling with you the passes are worthless. With planes as full as they are you are lucky as an active employee to get on.

 

[airlinedivalish]

In my 16 years at America West, I have used every single one of my buddypasses.

The passes allows my parents to travel for FREE instead of paying $30 roundtrip.

By exchanging 3 of my passes to a parent pass. It allowed my parents to travel for free which is $60 in savings. This new pass system SUCKS!!!!! It's horrible! Now they have to pay!

The New US Airways screwed the America West employees big time. Email row23middle@usairways.com or whoever made this decision.

This is not an improvement!

:down: :down: :down: :down:


We at America West really got screwed big time. Not only will our seniority suffers with Date of Hire, Our buddypass system got screwed and reduced. :angry:


I urge all America West employees to email this person row23middle@usairways.com. POOR DECISION AND TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE !!!!

 

[tahitigirl]

I agree with the parent thing.

In the past at US parents traveled just like employees. They traveled for free and on the senority of the employee. My mother used to fly to Europe every other month and only had to pay for the upgrade if she wanted it.

 

[airlinedivalish]

Tahiti,


This might be an improvement to all US Airways Employees, but it is not an improvement to all America West Employees.


How are they going to improve the moral on the HP side? This might be an improvement for US Employees, but what about us? They keep reducing our benefits, our insurance just went up and we still don't have a flight attendant contract! We're starting to feel like the underdog in this merger.

 

[tahitigirl]

I didn't say it was an improvement.

I'm not all that happy that my parents are going have to start paying to fly and have a lower priority for boarding. They use my flying benifits more than I do.

 

[airlinedivalish]

We know that the US folks will come out much butter than most HP in the area of Jobs, Salaries, Schedule, Vacation etc.


The least they could do was improve the flight benefits of America West employees, but instead they reduced it. It's totally PATHETIC !!!!!

This is a classic case of another great airline who got screwed ! :angry: :down:

 

[hulagirl]

airlinedivalish,
This is a merger, and there is going to be give and take from both sides. Some we will like, some we wont. Personally, I think the new system is a good mix, and they are soliciting feedback from employees, which is fantastic.
As far as how the AWA employees are "getting screwed" , we are not. This is business.
There is no nice way to say this, but please, for your own sake, GROW UP!

 

[foreright]

airlinedivalish,
This is a merger, and there is going to be give and take from both sides. Some we will like, some we wont. Personally, I think the new system is a good mix, and they are soliciting feedback from employees, which is fantastic.
As far as how the AWA employees are "getting screwed" , we are not. This is business.
There is no nice way to say this, but please, for your own sake, GROW UP!

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The travel destinations have greatly improved

 

[proudf/a]

The travel destinations have greatly improved

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Gee, maybe AWA employees are beginning to realize this is a merger, not a buyout, and they DONT call the shots! Even though Mr Parker is leading the way, doesnt make it AWA...the sign on the door now says USAIRWAYS. Its all going to be give and take on both sides of the fence...(no punt intended) 😀

 

[rjh]

I also don't like the reduction in buddy passes. It's a negative for my parents, and for me being able to upgrade to first class. But keep in mind--it IS just a benefit.

Instead of dwelling on the negative, be grateful we get to fly for free (and our relatives who do not work for the airline get to fly VERY cheap) to begin with.

We are still in the business to make money--having a very small fee for parents makes sense. Yes, the seat would be empty anyway, but extra weight incurs an extra fuel burn. Let's say an additional person incurs an extra burn of 20 pounds of fuel, which is about 3 gallons. Not a lot of extra gas, but that still costs $6. Will the company miss that $6? Probably not, but it all adds up!

If non-airline employees don't think airline employees are a bunch of whiners after reading about unions bickering on here--they certainly will if we constantly complain about what we don't have with our flight benefits.

 

[drifterreno]

Please everyone send into middle that our non dependents can still fly after age 35. Why did they put a restriction on this??? U never had non dependents. They'd love it.

 

[Breath_of_Fresh_USAirways]

Removed by me. Didn't take a deep enough breath...

 

[rjh]

🙁
Irony -- any non-revver starting their day in the East on an HP connecting flight -- oh, let's say out of PHL or PIT -- will have a substantially earlier check-in time for their connecting flight in LAS or PHX.

By using first-come, first-served, DOH doesn't matter. But how do HP employees feel about the huge advantage US people have when checking in, maybe 9 or 10 or more hours before, oh, I don't know, say a flight to HAWAII?

Example:
Leave
Thu, Jan 26 America West 631
Depart: 7:30am
Arrive: 10:30am Pittsburgh, PA (PIT)
Phoenix, AZ (PHX)

Change planes. Time between flights: 1hr 0min

America West 920
Depart: 11:30am
Arrive: 3:24pm Phoenix, AZ (PHX)
Honolulu/Oahu, HI (HNL)

A non-rev in the East could check-in, on-line, from home, as early as 4:30am -- which is 1:30am in PHX -- 10 hours before the departure for HNL -- so the East non-rev has a 6 hour advantage! So much for worrying bout DOH, eh?

Just wait until more HP'ers figure this out... :angry: :down:

Let's hope they continue to let HP'ers use their unexipired flexi-passes to fly SA1, at least until they expire...that way, they'll have half a chance to get on... :cold:

And those new US destinations? Boarding will be controlled by DOH! :censored:

Oh, yes, this "new" non-rev policy is REALLY good -- NOT for HP! :censored: :cold: :angry2:

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That's part of the risk, and I'd feel a lot better about that situation than I would checking in for a flight 4 hours ahead of time, only to be bumped by someone more senior who wanders up to the gate 15 minutes before push.

Consider this: you list for a flight that leaves at 10 am. The loads look fairly decent, but not great, so you go to the airport early (say 7:30 am), just to be on the safe side. Another airline cancels, so all the available seats are taken up by revenue passengers. The next flight leaves at 1 pm. Again, the flight has just a few seats left, but you are at the top of the standby list. After waiting at the airport for over 5 hours, you get settled into your seat at 12:30 pm. NO . .wait ..an employee who has worked for the company only 1 month longer than you wanders up to the gate, on to the airplane, and into our seat.

Using your scenario, you could also be bumped from that some PHX-HNL flight, even though you were up extra early for the flight out of PIT, only to be bumped by someone originating in PHX--because they have more seniority than you. So, that's your last chance to get to HNL that day.

Plus, using check-in time, I have a fairly decent idea of what my chances are by seeing how many SA2P's are listed. With DOH, I have to look up every PNR, find the employee's badge number, then look up that badge # to see what their DOH is. I can't do ANY of that from the internet at home.

 

[Breath_of_Fresh_USAirways]

That's part of the risk, and I'd feel a lot better about that situation than I would checking in for a flight 4 hours ahead of time, only to be bumped by someone more senior who wanders up to the gate 15 minutes before push.

Consider this: you list for a flight that leaves at 10 am. The loads look fairly decent, but not great, so you go to the airport early (say 7:30 am), just to be on the safe side. Another airline cancels, so all the available seats are taken up by revenue passengers. The next flight leaves at 1 pm. Again, the flight has just a few seats left, but you are at the top of the standby list. After waiting at the airport for over 5 hours, you get settled into your seat at 12:30 pm. NO . .wait ..an employee who has worked for the company only 1 month longer than you wanders up to the gate, on to the airplane, and into our seat.

Using your scenario, you could also be bumped from that some PHX-HNL flight, even though you were up extra early for the flight out of PIT, only to be bumped by someone originating in PHX--because they have more seniority than you. So, that's your last chance to get to HNL that day.

Plus, using check-in time, I have a fairly decent idea of what my chances are by seeing how many SA2P's are listed. With DOH, I have to look up every PNR, find the employee's badge number, then look up that badge # to see what their DOH is. I can't do ANY of that from the internet at home.

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😳 I'm not 100% correct. US is SA3C on HP flights, at the beginning of this "phase" which, if I'm understanding this correctly -- and I thought I was "one of those people" that did understand this! -- puts them at a lower boarding priority than SA2P (SA3P, too, maybe?) :blush: And we're S5HP on them, which I believe puts us behind all of them, too, so it won't matter if you have 22 years at HP...at least for now. :unsure: One thing for certain, there's more questions, than answers...

B) Also, I would hope that if we do anything by DOH that we have a listing system like the other carriers that use DOH that SHOWS the employee DOH in the listing! I believe CAL non-rev listings show their DOH -- they use SHARES -- so I'm pretty sure this can be done... :unsure: