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UAL_TECH said:
For those that voted the Reamsters, better download these documents for your grievance... :lol:

Pension Info:

Pension Plan Update 3
(What happend to 1 and two?) ... 😛

Teamster Pension Plan Update 06/05/07

The Western Conference of Teamsters Pension Booklet 04/26/07

Not to worry though, these will be available later for a 'nominal fee'.. :shock:

B) UT
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Ken and UT, don't be such a sore losers. This is democracy at work and the majority voted for the Reamsters. I was a strong AMFA supporter but I've seen enough of their or lack their of strenght. You guys take care 🙂

Btw, Ken AMFA was helpless when NWA was preparing for AMFA's potential strike by training the SCABS at a hotel in Arizona and AMFA didn't do anything.
 
ual747mech said:
Ken and UT, don't be such a sore losers. This is democracy at work and the majority voted for the Reamsters. I was a strong AMFA supporter but I've seen enough of their or lack their of strenght. You guys take care 🙂

Btw, Ken AMFA was helpless when NWA was preparing for AMFA's potential strike by training the SCABS at a hotel in Arizona and AMFA didn't do anything.
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I am not a sore loser. Democracy was used at ual. I only wish it had been used at AA. But alas, that is another story. The ual AMTs spoke. Their fate is in the hands of an industrial union. Time will tell.

As for the SCABS at nwa. AMFA did what was needed to be done. They stood up. IT was the members that failed AMFA. Had the members that originally went on strike NOT SCABBED the picture would be different at nwa. But you know this. Back to ual...

Will the teamsters bring back outsourced work? Will they prevent the current cap from increasing? Time will tell. Because the ual AMTs decided to leave AMFA does not weaken AMFA's structure or their committment to the AMT craft & profession. I support AMFA and will continue to support a democratic, craft union for AMTs where all officers are elected by the membership. Does the teamsters offer this? Time has shown the answer to be no. I wish you luck 🙂
 
Ken MacTiernan said:
I am not a sore loser. Democracy was used at ual. I only wish it had been used at AA. But alas, that is another story. The ual AMTs spoke. Their fate is in the hands of an industrial union. Time will tell.

As for the SCABS at nwa. AMFA did what was needed to be done. They stood up. IT was the members that failed AMFA. Had the members that originally went on strike NOT SCABBED the picture would be different at nwa. But you know this. Back to ual...

Will the teamsters bring back outsourced work? Will they prevent the current cap from increasing? Time will tell. Because the ual AMTs decided to leave AMFA does not weaken AMFA's structure or their committment to the AMT craft & profession. I support AMFA and will continue to support a democratic, craft union for AMTs where all officers are elected by the membership. Does the teamsters offer this? Time has shown the answer to be no. I wish you luck 🙂
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The membership was ill advised by the AMFA reps at NWA. That strike was something that shouldn't have happened to begin with. Oh well, damn if you do and damn if you don't kind of deal but AMFA should've warned the membership about the consequences of striking a bankrupt airline. Look at how many members crossed the picket line in the end because they realized they couldn't win that stupid strike. From what I saw with AMFA, they don't always make the right decision. At UAL, they let outsourcing the heavy maintenance to China as a bargaining chip when we were negotiating for our share to get the company get out of bankruptcy.

I don't know how the Reamsters are gonna do but they're are just one card away from getting voted out because that seems to be the trend for the mechanics and related at Ual, lol.
 
ual747mech said:
Oh well, damn if you do and damn if you don't kind of deal but AMFA should've warned the membership about the consequences of striking a bankrupt airline. Look at how many members crossed the picket line in the end because they realized they couldn't win that stupid strike.
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Hey clueless. We did not strike a bankrupt airline. Check your facts and dates.

Were you there to support us by walking the picket line with us?

"Stupid" strike? That is exactly the words many scabs used as they crossed the picket line.

In which category do you belong?
 
ual747mech said:
Ken and UT, don't be such a sore losers. This is democracy at work and the majority voted for the Reamsters. I was a strong AMFA supporter but I've seen enough of their or lack their of strenght. You guys take care 🙂

Btw, Ken AMFA was helpless when NWA was preparing for AMFA's potential strike by training the SCABS at a hotel in Arizona and AMFA didn't do anything.
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It is democracy at work. I always said that AMFA gave too much credit to the cognitive abilities of the membership. The membership voted and will have to live with their decision.

Toooooo Badddddd – Sooooo Sadddd… 😛

Me a sore loser, not hardly. :lol:

If you want to see what sore losers look like, just look at the Committee for Change. These ex-IAM now pro-IBT ‘supporters’ have never tried to make AMFA work. Never attended meetings (until recently and only to blast AMFA). Mainly instigated and voted on recalls. Did not even try to run for office. They derided and undermined AMFA at every step, regardless of the impact to the ‘membership’ that they claim to protect. :down:

Now they are your ‘leaders’ once again. :up:

Don’t you see the irony in that?

The only difference will be these ex-AMFA leaders will attend meetings and be involved and the rest of the membership will ‘chitter-chatter’ amongst themselves. :shock:

If it were not for the dedicated AMFA leaders getting the boot, I would find this quite comical.

When the IAM was on the property, I supported them. When AMFA came on the property, I supported them.
What do you think I would do different with the IBT? 🙄

My advice to you is to download and save the links I provided because it may very well be the last you ever hear from the IBT after a month or two. :shock:

I grabbed one link from PlaneDoctor as he is an IBT for CAL and their information has not been updated since “December 26, 2002â€.

Get used to it, that’s your future! :lol:

Take Care,
B) UT
 
tech2101 said:
Hey clueless. We did not strike a bankrupt airline. Check your facts and dates.

Were you there to support us by walking the picket line with us?

"Stupid" strike? That is exactly the words many scabs used as they crossed the picket line.

In which category do you belong?
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Maybe we should start a Poll... 😛

Take Care Tech! :up:

B) UT
 
tech2101 said:
Ok. Let's take this slowly for you, oh challenged one:

Strike: 8/19/2005

Bankruptcy: 9/15/2005

Here is you when all this took place:

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You're the one who took it up the arse in the end...ha ha ha. You caved in in the end huh? That was a smart strike huh? Like I said, AMFA doesn't always make the right decision. AMFA knew NWA was preparing for a strike and planned for bankruptcy but they went ahead and struck anyway. This is the end for AMFA, mark my word.
 
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