Unhappy Americans ask to secede from US
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southwind
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If you could only make people, like Barry-O, to believe that ! The confederate war was about a lot more, than slavery !
Pot ! Meet Ketle !
"Obama Supporters-Mostly Black, Continue Racial Slurs, Threats To Riot, Assassinate Romney!"
"Obama voters have flooded Twitter with racist slurs targeting Mitt Romney and his supporters. "
http://www.newsnet14.com/?p=111437
Don't ever think, that this is a one way street !
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Ms Tree
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Cornerstone Speech.
There may have been other factors, but none more important. The South can try and rewrite their history all they want but wishing for somethign to be true does not make it so.
Ms Tree
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I do not think it is any secret that there is hatred and ignorance in all corners of the US. What strikes me as odd is that the South seem to trot it out like a bandge of honor. You have members of Congress comigout and talking about magic vagines, the earth being 6000-9000 years old and other blatantly ignorant remarks. David Duke who received little traction when he was a 'democrat' switched sides to the republican party and gets hime self elected to the LA state legislature.
Instances such as this seem to be far more commonin the South than they are else wherein the country. I know they are a small minority in the country but they seemt o find more weak minds in the south. Not sure why.
Instances such as this seem to be far more commonin the South than they are else wherein the country. I know they are a small minority in the country but they seemt o find more weak minds in the south. Not sure why.
Thanks for the link. Now that's what I call a get out the vote effort. Vote or I will run over your sorry butt.
(Reminds me of my Mother's compromise method I was raised under..."Jim, honey. Let's make a deal. You behave yourself when we get on the train today, and I won't kill you. Does that sound fair?")
signals
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Most of your racial slur tweets about obama come from the south, is basically what you said.
SW just pointed out how obama supporters are still in the 'hood mentality!
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Glenn Quagmire
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southwind
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You mean one sentence per page, I take it !
What island do you live on ?
Absurdity is alive and well on both sides !
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If slavery was so important to southerners, why did 100% of them fight, while only 10% owned slaves ?
No, while important that slavery was made illeagal, it was not the only "IMPORTANT" thing to southerners , read below and learn:
This is from Wikipedia under state’s rights concerning the idea of nullification and where it originated:
Nullification
One major and continuous strain on the union, from roughly 1820 through the Civil War, was the issue of trade and tariffs. Heavily dependent upon trade, the almost entirely agricultural and export-oriented South imported most of its manufactured needs from Europe or obtained them from the North. The North, by contrast, had a growing domestic industrial economy that viewed foreign trade as competition. Trade barriers, especially protective tariffs, were viewed as harmful to the Southern economy, which depended on exports.
In 1828, the Congress passed protective tariffs to benefit trade in the northern states, but that were detrimental to the South. Southerners vocally expressed their tariff opposition in documents such as the South Carolina Exposition and Protest in 1828, written in response to the “Tariff of Abominations”. Exposition and Protest was the work of South Carolina senator John C. Calhoun, formerly an advocate of protective tariffs and internal improvements at federal expense.
South Carolina’s Nullification Ordinance declared the tariff of 1828 and 1832 null and void within the state borders of South Carolina. It began the Nullification Crisis. Passed by a state convention on November 24, 1832, it led, on December 10, to President Andrew Jackson’s proclamation against South Carolina, which sent a naval flotilla and a threat of sending government ground troops to enforce the tariffs.
It might surprise a lot of people, that 80% of the people fighting on the side of the Confederacy did not even own slaves. Owning slaves required a LOT of money, that the majority of southerners did not possess. Slavery was an issue, and it did contribute to the war. And many Northerners believed they were fighting to simply stop slavery. Maybe like many Americans believe that invading Iraq was simply to stop terrorism. Southerners fought for the right to decide who they could trade to internationally, and to stop Northern-run elitist government from imposing tariffs on trade that hurt the Southern economy.
Much like the EU today, the US was designed to be an allegience of states. State= country. Like the EU has it’s own currency now that replaces Frances’ francs, and English pounds, and so forth, the federal government was designed to unite and help support the states economically and against threats. I wonder, do the European countries fully understand the dangers of entering into a union such as the EU, when the right to leave the EU might be taken away from a country like France or Italy. The parallel is very similar.
I’m glad slavery was ended. I’m glad that we have made progress socially to be more equal. Our founding fathers wanted an end to slavery from the start of the Revolution against Britain. They, however, also felt that states should be able to leave the union if the people wanted to do so. The Civil War changed that.
I wonder, if we stayed with the idea of state rights’ closer to what we were designed to be, then maybe more gays could marry without fearing a national ban that Bush attempted.
States’ Rights does not equal racism, I’m tired of that notion. Many states and people began to fight for abolition as early as the Declaration of Independence. Had they not been able to do so, the abolitionist movement might have not grown as it did. States’ Rights means that the federal government should not be able to force a diverse group of people into laws or ways that might not be suitable. If a state thinks that gays should marry, gays should be allowed to in that state. If a state believes in abortion, abortion should be allowed as the law of that state.
http://americanhisto...civil-war-2.htm
Sorry Tree, millions of people don't share your Atheist view of how the world began !
And as far as "magic vigines", what-ever that is, there are crackpot's all over the world and in every corner of politics...............get use to it !
Confused even more? Barry-O?
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yoyodyne
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Nice TRY...southwind.
But IF you were to ask ANY person held CAPTIVE (in chains) in (say) good ol' South Carolina, they'd have told you the Big WAR of 1862 ..W A S..over thier not being allowed to be FREE !
This was ALL About GREED,.. = ..FREE LABOR !
Your average White HALF-WIT didn't want to have to compete for scarce jobs with freed Slaves.
Try to re-write History all you want, BUT don't waste your time trying to sell it especially to people of New England/New York.
W E..didn't re-write History...(GD-it), W E....M A D E.....H I S T O R Y !!!!
(and DON'T EVER Forget it) !!!!!
Stupid SH!T-KICKER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But IF you were to ask ANY person held CAPTIVE (in chains) in (say) good ol' South Carolina, they'd have told you the Big WAR of 1862 ..W A S..over thier not being allowed to be FREE !
This was ALL About GREED,.. = ..FREE LABOR !
Your average White HALF-WIT didn't want to have to compete for scarce jobs with freed Slaves.
Try to re-write History all you want, BUT don't waste your time trying to sell it especially to people of New England/New York.
W E..didn't re-write History...(GD-it), W E....M A D E.....H I S T O R Y !!!!
(and DON'T EVER Forget it) !!!!!
Stupid SH!T-KICKER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
