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United sugar packets on US flight

Hello, you know damm well there is nowhere to put glassware on our newly butchered aircraft.

I had UA sugar packets last week. I like how you see different Atlas trays alot- Virgin Nigeria, Singapore, Aer Lingus, TAM, Qantas... it's neat to see how far some of those things have traveled. Funny enough, those all fit in the carts while thebulky blue AWA ones don't.

You also see cool oven racks, they seem to mostly be from Continental (old logo) and you see some TWA ones too.


okay alot keep saying that, i used to fly out on the east and yes the former narrow-body airbus galley's were alot roomier, but everything fits on the 319,320 out west, the only thing that is really bad is the fact you give everyone a show while your preping the food, but i just stretch the curtain around and draw it half way and it solved it... sucks but im sure if they catered the east fwd galley's like the west you would see it all fits or if you took the time to get a tour of a west fwd galley you would see how it's done, until then i know it's hard to imagine it fitting after what you were used to, but rest asure it does!
 
Oh well we don't have curtains either. I just don't understand how an airline that wasn't called Usairways before now has glassware but the original usairways doesn't. How hard is this people? I would LOVE to stretch a curtain but from where when you don't have one? I had a glassware cart on the 757 ages ago in PHX. Yes that's how long ago to PIT. I guess that should have been a sign for me. I DID manage to swipe two HP mugs though. Thought they were pretty nice. Since we don't get to see glassware here at "USAIRWAYS" do we have coffee cups and saucers or mugs that actually hold a cup of coffee?
 
okay alot keep saying that, i used to fly out on the east and yes the former narrow-body airbus galley's were alot roomier, but everything fits on the 319,320 out west, the only thing that is really bad is the fact you give everyone a show while your preping the food, but i just stretch the curtain around and draw it half way and it solved it... sucks but im sure if they catered the east fwd galley's like the west you would see it all fits or if you took the time to get a tour of a west fwd galley you would see how it's done, until then i know it's hard to imagine it fitting after what you were used to, but rest asure it does!

Well maybe you should tour our butchered embarrsssing looking galleys. Curtain? There is none. There's a stupid halfs-ass bulkhead with a magazine rack on it (because we have so many magazines available). The bev and meal carts are filled to capacity with sodas and our dog food on longer flights, with a trash cart. The few Atlas carriers are filled with random items, usually ten drawers of stir sticks and more snacks. That space would be better used for sodas as before, keeping the carts for food. You need another cart for glassware. The west gallies are configured differently, ours were designed as half of a larger galley. As a bored F/A, I have torn it apart and designed my own setups to see how space could be utilized to no avail (in front of everyone).

I will "rest assured" that the blue plastic drawers have to be forced in and out of the bucher chiller carts and Atlas carriers and end up bowing them. They also do not allow sodas to lay flat, meaning an Atlas carrier can only carry one drawer of sodas instead of two- halving available space when you have them. I have seen the west carts, and am familiar with thier configuration. Stll not ideal, but designed for limited service. Our galleys were simply cut in half and as usual, the larger part of the airline is just told to deal with it.

My first class customers will not check bags because there are garbage bags of rolls of toilet paper and potato chips in the overhead bin. My first class customers will not see garbage bags of crap in thier stowage space. Those will go on the jetway and I will write up the lack of galley space on every flight- you know I don't mind writing.

I appreciate your imput, but trust me, I know what I'm talking about. I look forward to having Sherri Shamblin on my flight. Put her up front. She will be handed a garbage bag of pretzels to stow under her seat and her larger item will be checked to Philly. I will pick her brain for her knowlege of all of our positions on the widebodies and have her state and clarify thier duties to me. I will also ask her to provide a list of other carriers that are removing closets, since closets are "disappearing industry-wide". As a cultural expert (Swamis) I will engage her in a discussion of Asian cultures and compare our China service plans with other US carriers and foriegn competition. I will then sit in my super visible jumpseat and stare at her and flick the lights on and off for six hours. She will experience "business casual" firsthand.
 
Well maybe you need to tour our butchered embarrsssing looking galleys. Curtain? There is none. There's a stupid hals-ass bulkhead with a magazine rack on it (because we have so many magazines available). The bev and meal carts are filled to capacity with sodas and our dog food on longer flights, with a trash cart. The few Atlas carriers and they are filled with randon items, usually ten drawers of stir sticks and more snacks. That space would be better used for sodas as before, keeping the carts for food. You need another cart for glassware. The west gallies are configured differently, ours were desingned as half of a larger galley. As a bored F/A, I have torn it apart and designed my own setups to see how space could be utilized to no avail (in front of everyone).

I will "rest assured" that the blue plastic drawers have to be forced in and out of the bucher chiller carts and Atlac sarriers and end up bowing them. They also do not allow sodas to lay flat, meaning an Atlas carrier can only carry one drwawer of sodas instead of two- halving available space when you have them. I have seen the west carts, and am familiar with thier configuration. Stll not ideal, but desingned for limited service. Our galleys were simply cut in half and as usual, the larger part of the airline is just told to deal with it. My first class customers will not check bags because there are garbage bags of rolls of toilet paper and potato chips in the overhead bin. My first class customers will not see garbage bags of crap in thier stowage space. Those will go on the jetway and I will write up the lack of galley space on every flight- you know I don't mind writing.

I appreciate your imput, but trust me, I know what I'm talking about. I look forward to having Sherri Shamblin on my flight. Put her up front. She will be handed a garbage bag of pretzels to stow under her seat and her larger item will be checked to Philly. I will then sit in my super visible jumpseat and stare at her and flick the lights on and off for six hours. She will experience "business casual" firsthand.


You really paint a good picture. I think any flight attendant would cringe at your description. I have never been on an A320, etc., but I do know that our own First Class galley on the 737-800 (at AA) leaves A LOT to be desired, and it is STILL not nearly as bad as what they are forcing you to endure at US.

At least they designed it with room for glassware. I cannot imagine serving FC passengers in plastic cups.

Isn't it terrible that the people who make these awful decisions never have to face the ire of the customers face-to-face?

At AA, our new 757 reconfiguration is going to be a nightmare, I predict, as they will be removing one coat closet in FC, leaving one remaining. No place to hang coats, except on some peg on the bulkhead wall. Our passengers are going to throw fits.
 
At AA, our new 757 reconfiguration is going to be a nightmare, I predict, as they will be removing one coat closet in FC, leaving one remaining. No place to hang coats, except on some peg on the bulkhead wall. Our passengers are going to throw fits.

Oh God, we have started another negative trend.
 
Ok you caught us. Please don't #### when we confiscate your paperback (too many carry-ons don't you know).

We gotta give people something to read besides Vegas ads.
 
United as far as domestic service is not all that much better folks... have you been inside one of there older planes, there pretty ratty and stinky like some of ours... and regardless most of there f/a's onboard everytime i've flown are grouchy(not all, but the ones i've always seen onboard). So UA doesn't not offer a superior product onboard domestically that i've seen.

You are nuts - the UA product is so far above US it doesn't even compare. UA - PHL to DEN with a movie - PHL to ORD with a meal in FC - pleasant flight attendants who actually care about their job - planes are so much cleaner on UA than US, I have no idea what you are imagining - full drink service, then buy on board that you actually can eat - then water and coffee - then water throughout the flight - and the list goes on and on - wake up!
 
You are nuts - the UA product is so far above US it doesn't even compare. UA - PHL to DEN with a movie - PHL to ORD with a meal in FC - pleasant flight attendants who actually care about their job - planes are so much cleaner on UA than US, I have no idea what you are imagining - full drink service, then buy on board that you actually can eat - then water and coffee - then water throughout the flight - and the list goes on and on - wake up!

I have been served better meals on a UA 2 hour flight than US serves on a transcon. That service on UA included drinks in glassware, bread basket, large salad, large cookie, and good wine--that is a 2 hour flight. Their transcon service is even better. People who say UA FC is close to what US offers have never flown UA first class.

DL FC is better than what US offers too. DL has a "signature drink" program where you can order mojitos, martinis, etc. And, they even come in these cool glasses (plastic)--DL is trying to do some cost cutting, but it is not ghetto like US's cost cutting. I took a picture of the big fat green lime in a Fresca specialty drink they served...I am waiting for Piney Bob to return to show it to him. At one point, the FA was apologizing to a pax because he wanted a lime and catering hadn't loaded them yet (this is predeparture on a 757)--when they did load the limes, 2 FA's were scrambling to see if he wanted one before they took off. On US, if it isn't brown and yellow, it isn't served.

oh, and DL has this hardwood floor look in their FC lavs...the planes were so much cleaner.
 
oh, and DL has this hardwood floor look in their FC lavs...the planes were so much cleaner.
They have the hardwood floor in the back of the bus too (at least on the MD88's). Very clean looking (and smelling) plane especially considering the age.
 
Oh well we don't have curtains either. I just don't understand how an airline that wasn't called Usairways before now has glassware but the original usairways doesn't. How hard is this people? I would LOVE to stretch a curtain but from where when you don't have one? I had a glassware cart on the 757 ages ago in PHX. Yes that's how long ago to PIT. I guess that should have been a sign for me. I DID manage to swipe two HP mugs though. Thought they were pretty nice. Since we don't get to see glassware here at "USAIRWAYS" do we have coffee cups and saucers or mugs that actually hold a cup of coffee?
Agreed. The F/C bulkheads are a joke and there is minimal space to even prepare drinks let alone a meal service. Don't even get my a** going on no curtains in the galley and the lack of glassware in F/C. But then again when you have a "regional minded" carrier like AWA T-R-Y-I-N-G (and failing miserably) to run a NATIONAL carrier what could you expect. Personally I do not feel glassware will ever return simply because there is NO PLACE to store it and furthermore, the likes of Parker and his bunch would drink it right out of the bottle IF YOU ALLOWED IT! :down:
 
the likes of Parker and his bunch would drink it right out of the bottle IF YOU ALLOWED IT! :down:

But you see,the Westies won't allow that...they pour your drink and will only give you half the mini--maybe they are afraid the customer will turn into Chugalug Doug a/k/a Dougwiser a/k/a DoUgIe
 
Well maybe you should tour our butchered embarrsssing looking galleys. Curtain? There is none. There's a stupid halfs-ass bulkhead with a magazine rack on it (because we have so many magazines available). The bev and meal carts are filled to capacity with sodas and our dog food on longer flights, with a trash cart. The few Atlas carriers are filled with random items, usually ten drawers of stir sticks and more snacks. That space would be better used for sodas as before, keeping the carts for food. You need another cart for glassware. The west gallies are configured differently, ours were designed as half of a larger galley. As a bored F/A, I have torn it apart and designed my own setups to see how space could be utilized to no avail (in front of everyone).

I will "rest assured" that the blue plastic drawers have to be forced in and out of the bucher chiller carts and Atlas carriers and end up bowing them. They also do not allow sodas to lay flat, meaning an Atlas carrier can only carry one drawer of sodas instead of two- halving available space when you have them. I have seen the west carts, and am familiar with thier configuration. Stll not ideal, but designed for limited service. Our galleys were simply cut in half and as usual, the larger part of the airline is just told to deal with it.

My first class customers will not check bags because there are garbage bags of rolls of toilet paper and potato chips in the overhead bin. My first class customers will not see garbage bags of crap in thier stowage space. Those will go on the jetway and I will write up the lack of galley space on every flight- you know I don't mind writing.

I appreciate your imput, but trust me, I know what I'm talking about. I look forward to having Sherri Shamblin on my flight. Put her up front. She will be handed a garbage bag of pretzels to stow under her seat and her larger item will be checked to Philly. I will pick her brain for her knowlege of all of our positions on the widebodies and have her state and clarify thier duties to me. I will also ask her to provide a list of other carriers that are removing closets, since closets are "disappearing industry-wide". As a cultural expert (Swamis) I will engage her in a discussion of Asian cultures and compare our China service plans with other US carriers and foriegn competition. I will then sit in my super visible jumpseat and stare at her and flick the lights on and off for six hours. She will experience "business casual" firsthand.
I love you!!! :up: Right to the point as usual.
 
What are you talking about ... out west they taught us only to pour 1/4 mini if that. The passengers can't tell the difference since they are overcome with joy that its served in real glassware with US logos.
 

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