US Airways to take United 747's
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nycbusdriver
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Lease with front end crews...
USA F/A's hanout w/1 day class...
China
Russia
South America
WIN, WIN!
Thoughts?
That will go over well with the USAirways pilots and United flight attendants. (In fact, in the Wolf days the USAirways pilots basically told Wolf to go pound sand when he attempted to start China service with leased aircraft and crews.)
I find it interesting that you would consider it doable with throwing the United flight attendants under the bus and cutting the USAirways pilots out of the deal, also.
Why don't we just wet lease your job out to United employees since they will be furloughing a bunch as they announce further cutbacks?
United must furlough all the foreign nationals first, before they furlough any f/a's
UAL F/A E-line today,
Management announced it will "determine the number of front-line employee furloughs as it finalizes the schedule over the next month." Remember that our Contract provides significant job protections. Prior to any furlough, the Foreign National Letter of Agreement, on page 308 of our Contract, requires that all Foreign Nationals currently based in Singapore and Bangkok be furloughed or terminated. This in turn would provide a greater number of flight hours for AFA Flight Attendants to help manage any overage in personnel.
My thoughts are focused on speed to get things going...let them work out the details
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Interesting.
Generally speaking, to receive rights to service many such countries, a condition is agreed upon requiring a certain number of crewmembers are hired by the receiving carrier. If still in effect, would not terminating the foreign workers trigger an abrogation of rights to service?
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They would have to go to the west since they had a fleet of 74's
Is TWO considered a FLEET? :blink:
Jetsetter2Ord
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Maybe the article below posted on USDaily shows WHY the 6 747s going away...FUEL GUZZLERS think of them as the Hummer of the skies!
UNITED SLASHES STAFF, PLANES AS IT TRIES TO SAVE MONEY
United Airlines said Wednesday that it's cutting up to 1,100 more jobs, removing an additional 70 fuel-guzzling airplanes from its fleet and slashing domestic capacity as it tries to cope with spiraling fuel prices. The nation's No. 2 carrier said it plans to cut an additional 900 to 1,100 salaried, contract and management employees by the end of the year, in addition to 500 previously announced job reductions. The combined reductions mean the airline is cutting nearly 3 percent of its 55,000 workers worldwide. Officials said the "aggressive" moves are designed to the help the subsidiary of UAL Corp. weather an "unprecedented fuel environment." Crude oil futures prices peaked at a record above $135 a barrel nearly two weeks ago and airline fuel prices have been rocketing higher as well. United said it plans to ground its entire fleet of 94 Boeing B737s as well as six of the company's 747s -- its oldest and least fuel-efficient planes. It previously said it was going to mothball 30 of the jets. It is also scrapping its coach-only "Ted" service and reconfiguring those planes to include first-class seats. And the Chicago-based carrier will cut mainline domestic capacity by 17 to 18 percent in 2009, while also scaling back international capacity by 4 to 5 percent.
Source: Associated Press, June 4
UNITED SLASHES STAFF, PLANES AS IT TRIES TO SAVE MONEY
United Airlines said Wednesday that it's cutting up to 1,100 more jobs, removing an additional 70 fuel-guzzling airplanes from its fleet and slashing domestic capacity as it tries to cope with spiraling fuel prices. The nation's No. 2 carrier said it plans to cut an additional 900 to 1,100 salaried, contract and management employees by the end of the year, in addition to 500 previously announced job reductions. The combined reductions mean the airline is cutting nearly 3 percent of its 55,000 workers worldwide. Officials said the "aggressive" moves are designed to the help the subsidiary of UAL Corp. weather an "unprecedented fuel environment." Crude oil futures prices peaked at a record above $135 a barrel nearly two weeks ago and airline fuel prices have been rocketing higher as well. United said it plans to ground its entire fleet of 94 Boeing B737s as well as six of the company's 747s -- its oldest and least fuel-efficient planes. It previously said it was going to mothball 30 of the jets. It is also scrapping its coach-only "Ted" service and reconfiguring those planes to include first-class seats. And the Chicago-based carrier will cut mainline domestic capacity by 17 to 18 percent in 2009, while also scaling back international capacity by 4 to 5 percent.
Source: Associated Press, June 4
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US Airways announces NEW International Service with Our New 747's. Phoenix to Tijuana, Ciudad Juarez, Nogales, and Chihuahua.They would have to go to the west since they had a fleet of 74's
Not true. BA, SQ, etc. do not have to hire American F/As as a condition of flying to the U.S. LCC does not have to hire German F/As as a condition of flying to Germany
No. See above.
UA furloughed all the BKK and SIN F/As after 9/11, and continued to serve those cities. UA has closed its CDG and TPE F/A bases, and continues to serve France and Taiwan.
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Actually, quite true, but, only in one direction. The US carriers, at one time, had to hire many such crewmembers. I have never heard a case that a foreign carrier "had to" hire US citizens, though, contracting for "local" services may have been in lieu of such a requirement.
You should acquaint yourself with many such "travesties" Americans have been saddled with by the DC "elite". Start with Senator Dorgan's "Take this job and ship it"
Route authorities might help. Nothing open to Brazil or Buenos Aires. China delayed for an additional year. How many 747's should usairways fly to DME?Lease with front end crews...
USA F/A's hanout w/1 day class...
China
Russia
South America
WIN, WIN!
Thoughts?
Chicken or Beef??
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How many flight attendants shall we run the 747 with. 1 for upstairs, 2 for Envoy and 4 for the main cabin. Plus one Lodo. Perfect.
YVINTERN
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Ugh hell no...we need 10 minimum...
Four, actually. N531/532/533/534AW. All 1970/71-vintage ex-KLM -200s.
Although given their 'hangar queen' reputations, I'm sure there were plenty of times that only two of them were up and running... <_<
