US East to fly PHX-CUN

SCUBAgal

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Nope, we utilize them for our Mexico routes. CUN often comes in and takes out the pm HNL flight...
 

HPearlyretiree

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Not anymore, they moved the PM HNL flight earlier in the day, which is inconvenient to anyone who wants to go after work!

Its a conspiracy!!! :lol:
 

Travelpro72

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I think it's safe to say that we will see many more flights flown by the othes a/c and crews as we integrate. If the ability is there why not take advantage of it? I wonder what US west will p/u to balance it out? hmmm. Will make for a strange pairing. They are so the same over at east. I can't wait to change it up a bit.
 

SCUBAgal

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LOL..it'd make me happy too!!! I LOVE CLT...and we do need more than two, maybe three flights a day heading out there.
I'm actually shocked you haven't heard it since it's all inflight that's telling me the rumor!!! ROFL.
 

USFlyer

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I think it's safe to say that we will see many more flights flown by the othes a/c and crews as we integrate. If the ability is there why not take advantage of it? I wonder what US west will p/u to balance it out? hmmm. Will make for a strange pairing. They are so the same over at east. I can't wait to change it up a bit.

I've been flying (as a customer) the HP PHL-SEA flight the last few weeks. You guys have an interesting day on that one ... PHX-PHL-SEA all in one day! I'm guessing that goes PHX-PHL-PDX when PDX is added later and US resumes all PHL-SEA flights.
 
You don't need ETOPS to fly across the Gulf of Mexico PHX-CUN, but you definitely need EOW.

EOW, or "extended overwater" applies to aircraft with life vests, life rafts and certain other water-related safety equipment installed - I think HF radios too? If an aircraft is not EOW approved it cannot go out to sea farther than, I think, 50 miles.

ETOPS aircraft are by definition EOW-approved, hence the US West ETOPS 757s can fly PHX-CUN overwater. If US East EOW Airbuses are placed on the route, there should be no problem with flights being lengthened. I don't believe any other America West aircraft are EOW-equipped.
 

320tech

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45 mins.??? I have flown (Operated and am fully typed in) both the 319 and 757 and they cruise at about the same speed...

0.8 mach????

It's because the etops 757 are eow ( extended over water )and the airbuses are not certified to do that thats why they cut 45 min off the flight.

I thought all of HP's ETOPS 757s fly to HI, not Mexico?
they do not just fly to Hawaii they are used all over the system.
 

Travelpro72

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They must have raised the limit on how far a non EOW a/c can go from land. I just flew a section on the airbus 321 from PHL to SJU when we had an A330 out a few weeks ago. Wasn't it raised to a hundred miles or something. How far are we when we have to demo the life vests on the 737-300 or 737-400? What's the difference of having to or not? Oh yeah, we also use the A321 to MBJ and CUN as well I believe. Will have to check the pairings.
 

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