US/NW Merger rumor?

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I think USAirways chairman, president and CEO Doug Parker really want to merge with Northwest Airlines since he spent four years with Northwest Airlines as vice president and assistant treasurer, and vice president of financial planning and analysis in 1991 to 1995.

US Airways CEO talks consolidation
news reporter from Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Could US Airways boss Doug Parker be thinking about a merger - again?

Fresh from creating the nation's fifth-largest carrier last fall with the union of the old US Airways and America West Airlines, the boyish-looking chief executive officer admits that consolidation is still on his mind. He hints that the most attractive combinations for US Airways could involve Delta Air Lines and Northwest Airlines.

Both of those carriers are still in bankruptcy, and, as US Airways learned in 2003 and 2005, both will be able to drastically reduce costs by giving unneeded airplanes back to lenders or renegotiating labor contracts - making either company more attractive to potential partners.

As Delta and Northwest get closer to emerging from bankruptcy, they may look for a merger partner on the way out, as US Airways did in 2005, and if that happens "we will be there to talk to them," Parker said.

Talk of more mergers in the U.S. airline industry is heating up again as the major carriers recover from five years of extreme pain and more than $30 billion in losses. One good sign is that the newly-merged US Airways made money in this year's first quarter despite the soaring costs of oil and jet fuel.

Still, even with the many cuts among major carriers and Independence Air's going out of business, some observers argue the industry needs more cutting and consolidation, saying it will make the remaining carriers healthier. "Basically, we still have too many seats, too many hubs and too many legacy carriers," said Ray Neidl, an airline analyst with Calyon Securities in New York.

United Airlines, Delta, Continental Airlines and US Airways are all interested in more consolidation, according to longtime Virginia airline consultant Darryl Jenkins, who advises carriers around the country.

Both Delta and Northwest would fit well with US Airways' existing network, some said. Both would give US Airways a stronger international presence, with Delta strong across the Atlantic and to Latin America and Northwest owning prized routes to and from the Far East.

Colorado airline consultant Mike Boyd claims Delta is not interested in a merger. "The chairman of Delta told me that they are not."

Nor would a merger of Delta and US Airways make sense, he said, calling it a "major mess" bringing together fleet types and unions that are too different.
 
You want to talk about trouble, just watch and see if that ever happens, I doubt it will, US and HP are not even merged they would be stupid to even attempt this.

More like DL/NW and UA/CO.
 
You want to talk about trouble, just watch and see if that ever happens, I doubt it will, US and HP are not even merged they would be stupid to even attempt this.

More like DL/NW and UA/CO.

As long as the executives make money, logic be damned.
Short term gain and then bail before the long term loss.
Make a powerpoint presentation to the 'investors', cash out and move to the next opportunity.

B) UT
 
I think USAirways chairman, president and CEO Doug Parker really want to merge with Northwest Airlines since he spent four years with Northwest Airlines as vice president and assistant treasurer, and vice president of financial planning and analysis in 1991 to 1995.

US Airways CEO talks consolidation
news reporter from Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Could US Airways boss Doug Parker be thinking about a merger - again?

Fresh from creating the nation's fifth-largest carrier last fall with the union of the old US Airways and America West Airlines, the boyish-looking chief executive officer admits that consolidation is still on his mind. He hints that the most attractive combinations for US Airways could involve Delta Air Lines and Northwest Airlines.

Both of those carriers are still in bankruptcy, and, as US Airways learned in 2003 and 2005, both will be able to drastically reduce costs by giving unneeded airplanes back to lenders or renegotiating labor contracts - making either company more attractive to potential partners.

As Delta and Northwest get closer to emerging from bankruptcy, they may look for a merger partner on the way out, as US Airways did in 2005, and if that happens "we will be there to talk to them," Parker said.

Talk of more mergers in the U.S. airline industry is heating up again as the major carriers recover from five years of extreme pain and more than $30 billion in losses. One good sign is that the newly-merged US Airways made money in this year's first quarter despite the soaring costs of oil and jet fuel.

Still, even with the many cuts among major carriers and Independence Air's going out of business, some observers argue the industry needs more cutting and consolidation, saying it will make the remaining carriers healthier. "Basically, we still have too many seats, too many hubs and too many legacy carriers," said Ray Neidl, an airline analyst with Calyon Securities in New York.

United Airlines, Delta, Continental Airlines and US Airways are all interested in more consolidation, according to longtime Virginia airline consultant Darryl Jenkins, who advises carriers around the country.

Both Delta and Northwest would fit well with US Airways' existing network, some said. Both would give US Airways a stronger international presence, with Delta strong across the Atlantic and to Latin America and Northwest owning prized routes to and from the Far East.

Colorado airline consultant Mike Boyd claims Delta is not interested in a merger. "The chairman of Delta told me that they are not."

Nor would a merger of Delta and US Airways make sense, he said, calling it a "major mess" bringing together fleet types and unions that are too different.
There is still considerable buzz up to director level here regarding a NWA/Delta merger. I understand, however, that such has been the case for quite some time.
 
"Robbed",

The BEST(hypothetical) "fit" is NW/CO "hands down" !!

The fleet mix IS a problem, but most everything could be put together fairly easy.

To do this, CO would have to be the survivor.
(Problem is, I don't think at this point in time, that CO, like AA does'nt want to "hook up with anyone)

CO(for now), has a non-union CS and ramp force.
Then again, a combo of the two could lead to a newly created union work force)

IF CO were the survivor, the hubs would be, EWR/DTW/IAH +NRT
MEM and CLE would possibly be focus cities, while MSP would definitely be a focus city.

CO "could" re-locate the "new" HDQ to IAH.

Not sure how a combo of the two would effect KLM(AF), and the new creation would need a european "boost"

NH/BB's
 
Thanks NHBB! I never would have thought of CO but that does sound like it would be most likely the best merger given their route structure hubs etc etc
 
"Robbed",

The BEST(hypothetical) "fit" is NW/CO "hands down" !!

The fleet mix IS a problem, but most everything could be put together fairly easy.

To do this, CO would have to be the survivor.
(Problem is, I don't think at this point in time, that CO, like AA does'nt want to "hook up with anyone)

CO(for now), has a non-union CS and ramp force.
Then again, a combo of the two could lead to a newly created union work force)

IF CO were the survivor, the hubs would be, EWR/DTW/IAH +NRT
MEM and CLE would possibly be focus cities, while MSP would definitely be a focus city.

CO "could" re-locate the "new" HDQ to IAH.

Not sure how a combo of the two would effect KLM(AF), and the new creation would need a european "boost"

NH/BB's
Aren't NW 5th freedom right linked to the NWA certificate? If so, CO wouldn't be the survivor in that case. IMO the airlines that are looking for a dance partner are the ones who need help the most. CO, AA, and UA are all taking a wait and see attitude. They're on the sidelines, but aren't going to step on the field unless they have to.
 
Aren't NW 5th freedom right linked to the NWA certificate? If so, CO wouldn't be the survivor in that case. IMO the airlines that are looking for a dance partner are the ones who need help the most. CO, AA, and UA are all taking a wait and see attitude. They're on the sidelines, but aren't going to step on the field unless they have to.


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"scope",

A very good point, and THAT may be the way it plays out !!

NH/BB's
 
"Aren't NW 5th freedom right linked to the NWA certificate? If so, CO wouldn't be the survivor in that case".



Borescope,

I believe your are correct with regard to NWA 5th freedom rights. Everyone wants to expand towards Asia, this is why a combo such as NW/CO or NW/DL is being discussed behind closed doors. If or when CO/UA hook up, it will then be like kids at a high school dance looking for 'partners'.

Also, consider NWA's 'veto' power on any future CO merger per the Dept of Justice NW/CO stock agreement, back around 2000. It's valid for 25-30 years. Something big should be just around the corner...
 
Just look at what US has done. Merged with another carrier (HP) and didn't change a single uniform. Two airlines joined at the hip but still operating separately. The routes are available to passengers of both res systems and guess what??? they're making money.
When nwa and Delta come out of BK (3-5-7 years) they will want to do the same. New airline model is choice. nwa is in the Skyteam alliance and shares already with Delta so it makes sense. nwa...no mechanics union, Delta...no mechanics union. nwa..pilots under thumb, Delta...pilots also under thumb (under control). nwa is waiting to get all of the labor groups under control and then maybe they can talk about emerging from BK...and not a minute sooner.
The big question for these CEOs is which one wears the boots and which ones become the boot lickers?