US posts another record profit!

[Kev3188]

Dispatchers are represented too, but your overall point certainly stands....

 

[WorldTraveler]

at will or not, those DL employees are doing a whole lot better than US peeps.

Why can't someone find some dough for robbed? The guy asked a decent question and we rag on the dude who points out that DL employees do better than US employees without a CBA. This site is the best advertising for the VOTE NO crowd at DL.

What good does a CBA do if robbed is still stuck running between home plate and first base years after his union went to bat for him?

someone, anyone?

 

[USA320Pilot]

From US Airways' State of the Airline Q&A: October 23, 2013

Q. Why is the company willing to give the American's mechanics a 4.3% raise and only willing to give us airways mechanics 2%?

A. Because the merged airline will have the network and revenue base to pay amounts similar to other network carriers (United and Delta) and standalone US Airways (similar to America West) does not have that ability. Note: This question was also asked in person at the meeting by an IAM Rep.

USA320Pilot asks: As a standalone company US Airways typically produce revenue less than its peers. When evaluating employee pay & benefits I believe it's a mistake for people think short-term in a cyclical industry where shock events, the economy, and energy prices affect the bottom line and then use those numbers to seek long-term compensation. Companies who allow their costs to get too high place the business enterprise at risk in a cyclical industry during the inevitable down times. Simply put, responsible management cannot allow that to happen (Economics 101).

Therefore, if the proposed corporate transaction proceeds and the New American Airlines will have revenue/margins similar to Delta and United where I believe it would then be reasonable to expect management to pay industry standard pay and benefits. Therefore, would it make sense for a union in contract negotiations to support US Airways M&A attempt where a group can scratch each other's back or for a union and its antonymous internet thugs to fight THE way for its members to prosper?

 

[WorldTraveler]

naw... the simple answer is that Dougie needed to get the AA unions onboard to make the merger work but could care less about his own people.

Economics 101. 7th week.

 

[robbedagain]

Wt just fyi I made it frm home base to third base been stuck on third since april 🙂

 

[USA320Pilot]

For clarification US Airways' IAM employees are some of the best maintenance and related employees on the planet. My view is not to debate the opinion of what these employees make or deserve. My point is that the New American will have stronger earnings that will allow it to pay its employees industry leading pay and benefits if the merger proceeds. Therefore, I believe it's in the best interest for every US Airways and American employee for every labor group to support the proposed merger. I believe that's the best way to get a better contract.

 

[robbedagain]

Iam gets fair contracts before supporting merger period we been the slave labor of us n the profits since the ch 11 era enough is enough plain n simple

 

[USA320Pilot]

Iam gets fair contracts before supporting merger period we been the slave labor of us n the profits since the ch 11 era enough is enough plain n simple

In my opinion, when people scratch each other's backs they get more accomplished. Your idea is certainly an approach the IAM can take just as it's an approach for Doug Parker to use the RLA to his advantage to keep the current IAM contracts in place for a long period of time with the NMB's backing. But, for other employee groups this stalemate boosts their profit sharing checks.

Again, I'm supportive of IAM members obtaining pay and benefit increases. I just don't believe trying to hurt somebody and then asking them for a pay raise works -- especially with labor's RLA constraints.

Carry on...

 

[robbedagain]

Usa no one is out to hurt.. bottom line is these donkeys have made sooo much dough in profits on our backs all the iam is asking is for increases the f/as got nice raises you pilots... well we know thats still going on.. enough is enough give us fair wages n scope protection etc n may be the iam would support the merger til then screw them donkeys. Fyi I read the article on a thread nnit appears just by reading that delta hurt us aa chances but itll be interestin to see what happens over the next month

 

[700UW]

The reason they got 3%, not 2% is the CBA had built in raises after the amenable date, no other CBA in the industry has that language.

Al headintheway won't bargain in good faith, M&R are waiting to be released by the NMB to strike, talks broke off last week after only three days. The RLA is the problem.

 

[USA320Pilot]

Usa no one is out to hurt.. bottom line is these donkeys have made sooo much dough in profits on our backs all the iam is asking is for increases the f/as got nice raises you pilots... well we know thats still going on.. enough is enough give us fair wages n scope protection etc n may be the iam would support the merger til then screw them donkeys. Fyi I read the article on a thread nnit appears just by reading that delta hurt us aa chances but itll be interestin to see what happens over the next month

I believe today's blogger article in Fortune can be turned around by merger proponents and used to support the merger for three reasons: 1.) The merger is needed to combat DAL's growing presence,2.) DAL says it wants to own NYC - is that not anti-competitive?, and 3. DAL said it is taking market share away from its competitors. What's the best way to prevent that from happening and create competition? A stronger company.

In my opinion, Rich Parker will have a field day with the type of information contained in the article you reference, if the antitrust trial proceeds.

Meanwhile, I believe today's comment in the USA Today and Scott Kirby's comment in the company's conference call is germane. The USA Today wrote, With American Airlines reporting last week that it had a third quarter profit of $289 million, the would-be merger partners appear to be doing well on their own. But Scott Kirby, US Airways' president, said during an earnings call with investors and media that the tie-up is still necessary. "Strong companies merge all the time and the point of this merger is we will be stronger, we will be able to attract more customers . . . if we're allowed to merge,'' Kirby said. "The fact that we're currently making profits today doesn't change that in any way whatsoever.''

As far as the IAM talks - the IAM and its members better hope the merger proceeds or I believe they will have their current contract could be in place for a long time. By the way...this is the IAM's third contract since the AWA - US Airways merger. The pilots have not had a raise after the merger closed and have only seen pay cuts since Bankruptcy 1.

 

[700UW]

Wrong, the IAM, all three groups have only negotiated ONE transition agreement since the merger.

All three IAM groups are in the FIRST section / negotiations since 1999.

Why do you post lies and misinformation?

All three IAM groups have been in negotiations for over two years, MTC has asked to be released since June and Fleet since July.

Stop lying and posting misinformation, you aren't an IAM member.

 

[737823]

And how are those negotiations progressing company boy? Is the IAM going to stand by as US is solidly profitable and keep their members strapped to a concessionary agreement?

Josh

 

[700UW]

You are truly clueless about the process, go back under your bridge.

 

[WorldTraveler]

apparently not well, Josh.

Someone is NOT bringing home the bacon for the home team.

TSK TSK