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Mitchell put a 21% emergency paycut on all US employees in the second chapter 11 case and abrogated the Mechanic and Related Contract.

And terminated all the remaining pensions, I was in the courtroom during the emergency hearings and the 1113 C trial.

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Judge Allows US Airways Pay Cuts

By MICHELINE MAYNARD and KRISTEN A. LEE
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Published: October 15, 2004


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bankrupt US Airways today won most of the emergency pay cuts it said were critical to avoid liquidation, and the airline industry's other bankrupt company, United, said it wanted to terminate its labor contracts and would seek deeper cuts from its employees.

The moves by the industry's two insolvent companies underscored the crisis facing the nation's airlines. All told, the carriers are expected to lose close to $5 billion this year, on top of losses of $30 billion since the year 2000.

US Airways, the nation's seventh-largest airline, filed for its second bankruptcy protection in two years on Sept. 12, after employees would not grant $800 million in wage and benefit cuts sought by the airline. United, the second-largest airline, sought court protection in December 2002.

Judge Stephen S. Mitchell of Federal Bankruptcy Court in Alexandria, Va., said US Airways could impose cuts of 21 percent over the next four months, through Feb. 15. The airline had sought cuts of 23 percent for six months.
Lawyers for US Airways' unions argued that the cuts were too severe, given that employees granted the airline two rounds of cuts worth $1.9 billion a year during its first bankruptcy.

"We don't want the company to fail, but we don't think you need to slash and burn tomorrow," said Sharon L. Levine, a lawyer for the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers.

The unions' lawyers also pointed out that salaried employees had taken cuts of 5 percent to 10 percent, and that the airline's chief executive, Bruce R. Lakefield, was not taking a pay cut.

But the airline's lawyers maintained that US Airways could cease operating by mid-February unless the cuts were granted. "This company will fail. There is no doubt that it will fail," Brian Leitch, US Airways' lead bankruptcy lawyer, said.

Judge Mitchell said he "reluctantly" agreed with US Airways' arguments. But he reduced the size and duration of the cuts and said that they "should not be an end run" around talks between the company and its unions on permanent cuts.

"I believe and understand this will represent a severe financial hardship" for US Airways employees, said Judge Mitchell, who presided over US Airways first bankruptcy case.

After the court hearing, Mr. Lakefield said, "Our mission here is to save as many jobs as possible."
He reiterated that he had taken the equivalent of a pay cut because his $425,000 salary was less than his predecessor, David N. Siegel, had earned. Mr. Lakefield replaced Mr. Siegel in April.

In the United case, airline lawyers said that they would ask a federal bankruptcy court in Chicago to void the airline's labor agreements, so that they could be replaced with less-expensive contracts.

United said it would file the motion, under Section 1113 of the bankruptcy code, sometime next month. The airline was granted cuts of $2.5 billion a year from its unions 18 months ago. United said it hoped to negotiate replacement contracts by mid-January.

United also said that it was "likely" to ask for the termination of its traditional employee pension plans, which it has said it wants to replace with 401(k) programs.

But the airline said the Association of Flight Attendants and the I.A.M. had agreed to drop efforts to appoint a trustee to run the airline, a move that in essence would have unseated United's chief executive, Glenn F. Tilton. The terms of the agreement were not disclosed.
 
700uw, totally different circumstances. usAIR was on the verge of liquidation while in BK. AMR is not. And no, I don't want a merger with usAIR, you bring very little to the table. Just my opinion!
 
Don't forget to vote No!!!
You have all day today to change it if you did not!
 
WTF OVER !!!

All,



I just wanted to let you know that the TWU International has sent a letter that there will be a conference call at noon tomorrow, to update the Presidents on the vote results. The letter is not very specific, however; it appears that the results of our vote will be held until then. So, please let the members know this is the plan and as soon as we have the results we will put the info on the Local 565 website. Unfortunately, with that said, AA management know the results of our vote before our members do, however; until we are provided the "official results," nothing is confirmed.





Again, please pass this info on to as many members as possible.

Sorry for the delay in an announcement, however; it is beyond my control.

Gary
 
Then it was a deal done, because that is not in the contract. There is nothing for demoting a crew chief for cause in the contract right now.
No, you are right but a lot of people have been asking for it on the floor. Some cities have been demoting for cause for a while with a process through PPC to downgrade people. Currently the only way to step down is through the window in Art 12. Technically if you perform badly outside the window and past the six months there is no official way through PPC to be demoted for cause which means per the CBA a CC should be terminated per PPC.
 
As I stated yesterday a group of us at DFW will vote today my vote was cast at 9:42am I have listened to all of the arguments and have cast my No vote if this managment team wants to destroy AA I say so be it. But there comes a point we must draw a line in the sand or they will be back for more they will get the pension and retiree medical but i will not agree to them pulling the industry backwards further.

They say they will impose 3/22/12 if it is no, well I say let them slit their own throat because that is what they will be doing if they impose 3/22/12 because some Judge says they can. Go ahead Mr Horton push for the Max and see what it gets you!!!
 
As I stated yesterday a group of us at DFW will vote today my vote was cast at 9:42am I have listened to all of the arguments and have cast my No vote if this managment team wants to destroy AA I say so be it. But there comes a point we must draw a line in the sand or they will be back for more they will get the pension and retiree medical but i will not agree to them pulling the industry backwards further.

They say the will impose 3/22/12 if it is no, well I say let them slit their own throat because that is what they will be doing if they impose 3/22/12 because some Judge says they can. Go ahead Mr Horton push for the Max and see what it gets you!!!

I too Vote No this mourning just a few more hours and then we see if the Mechanic's have the courage of their comvictions!!
 
If the judge abrogates your contract, are you going strike AA? Until somebody stands up to these crooked judges, corporate thugs will get whatever they want.
 
If the judge abrogates your contract, are you going strike AA? Until somebody stands up to these crooked judges, corporate thugs will get whatever they want.
You telling me 10,000+ pilots can't effect a change, this is a little different then when we went through, don't strike just go by the book!!!!! hang tought guys.
 
Quick question. Is it true that if you guys (mechanic group) vote this current LBO2 down, and the company ends up abrograting the contract, that the BK laws or rules will force the company and your group back to the table once they come out of BK? The reason I ask is, I read where one of you have posted as such. By voting no, your saying your tired of giving in for the company, and your saying no to the rifs and outsourcing. Maybe the abrograted contract could be endured until you can get back to the table when AA comes out of BK, and starts record profits, giving upper management huge bonuses, while you guys are stuck with what your contract is if you all vote yes. If you vote no, and this is true info (getting back to the table after exiting BK) then you could quite possibly get a much better deal if they start reporting the record profits in order to pad the pockets of all the exects and upper management. I know I am not part of your group, but it would be pretty important info to have prior to a vote like this, and I really don't see any of you discussing this. Just courious.
 
The way I understand it the bk laws will not govern in post abrogation negotiations, the laws under the railway labor act will. We, of course will be eager to negotiate, the company, not so eager, since they will have everything they want after the abrogation.
 
So you guys are not capable of understanding what a true expert has to say?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh8QI1cMEt4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://www.twubkfacts.org/
 
The word from the stores section chairman is the #s have changed as to how many stock clerks will remain at AFW. The new # is 67.
 

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