What Us Wants

[EyeInTheSky]

May God have mercy on their soles.

Homie did you mean Souls? Or did you mean soles as "they will be walking in the street" sort of thing?

 

[cltbay1homie]

Homie did you mean Souls? Or did you mean soles as "they will be walking in the street" sort of thing?

Kool that U caught that. souls is what I should have said.

 

[Furloughedagain]

Geez tough room. I thought the thing about the walkers and the Rascal was pretty funny.

 

[EyeInTheSky]

Geez tough room. I thought the thing about the walkers and the Rascal was pretty funny.

Furloughedagain yeah age is showing on here. I thought it was damn funny! Even George Carlin couldn't work his *&*&ing magic on here.

 

[Light Years]

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[Light Years]

pppppppppppp

 

[to much time to quit]

Homie did you mean Souls? Or did you mean soles as "they will be walking in the street" sort of thing?

Maybe they are sole fish!

 

[to much time to quit]

Don't say it then. If you are an employee that no longer cares to work at USAirways, simply resign. If you are an employee, I'm sure the attitude that you convey via this Forum reflects your work ethic and probably your co-workers would not miss you either.

But I've got To Much Time To Quit!! 😛 But I'll vote yes for my severance pay. NOT!! Full pay and benefits till the last miserable day!

 

[PITbull]

Don't say it then. If you are an employee that no longer cares to work at USAirways, simply resign. If you are an employee, I'm sure the attitude that you convey via this Forum reflects your work ethic and probably your co-workers would not miss you either.

n9,

I don't agree with your comment. Any employer that believes survivablity is by way of exploiting the employees and stripping them to a level of poverty, and admitting that that way is still a gamble to survive, should not be in business.

Like it or lump it, that opinion of 700 is very easily deduced; but not by those folks on the inside (like yourself) that are in denial. This plan of management is just a last stab effort and gamble to save the stakeholders investment.

Don't keep fooling yourself or deluding others to think that if they have an opinion of the "real reality", that they should just leave, so the YES sayers can "lower the bar" for the rest of the damn industry. :angry: :angry:

 

[USA320Pilot]

Ktflyhome:

Ktflyhome said: "From what I was told by a Pilot who seems to be well-informed about Alpa, the productivity involved in the concessions...that being taking the Pilots up to flying 95 hours a month, would result (according to him) in about another 300 Pilots furloughed."

USA320pilot comments: With the current contract and schedule, US Airways is minimally staffed for pilots. When the weather deteriorates or on the weekend, the airline is short staffed.

The new business plan increases current aircraft utilization by 15% from 10.0 to 11.5 hours per day. The company's proposed pilot productivity change is to increase the pay cap from 85 to 96 hours, which is 13% and will permit the company to fly 15% more block hours per day per aircraft with the same work force.

In addition, the new business plan calls for 320 mainline aircraft, which is 41 more than the minimum requirement of 279 aircraft, which could require recalls.

Separately, two areas that will effect pilot manning are mandatory age 60 retirements and attrition, which will require pilot recalls.

Approximate Age 60 Retirements

Year Number Cumulative Total
2004 127 127
2005 146 273
2006 216 489
2007 264 753
2008 199 952
2009 248 1200
2010 199 1399
2011 272 1671
2012 277 1948
2013 320 2268
2014 305 2573
2015 311 2884

Source: ALPA R&I

January 2004 through August 2004 Pilot Attrition

US Airways had the following pilot attrition from System Bid 04-01 (January) through System Bid 04-05 (August):

Age 60 retirements: 50
Early retirements: 9
Medical disability: 70
Total: 129

During the fist eight months of 2004, the company lost about 9 pilots per month to medical disability.

Pilots returning to the line from medical leaves, leave of absences, military duty, ALPA work, and supervisory positions offset the attrition above. The pilot headcount on December 31, 2003 was 3,176 and on August 1, 2004 will be 3,076.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

 

[PITbull]

USA320,

Are you going to sit here and say that pilots will not be furloughed if these concessions go through?

If you say NO. Put it on this post and I will save it for the furture as a reference. 🙄

 

[jimntx]

Source: ALPA R&I

January 2004 through August 2004 Pilot Attrition

US Airways had the following pilot attrition from System Bid 04-01 (January) through System Bid 04-05 (August):

Age 60 retirements: 50
Early retirements: 9
Medical disability: 70
Total: 129

Through August 2004??? Does ALPA have a resident psychic who knows what is going to happen for the rest of June, July, and August? I can see how you could know exactly how many members are going to turn 60, but early retirements and disabilities, too?

 

[BoeingBoy]

jimntx,

Those numbers are based on the pilot's base bids, which are completed thru August. As you say, the age 60 is pretty much set in stone, but the rest are those that were known when the August bid was awarded.

Jim

 

[ktflyhome]

So it looks like from Dec.2003 to Aug.2004, there will be 100 less pilots. Have any been recalled???

 

[RowUnderDCA]

"SMITHERS... is the preflight complete? I am prepared to take my flying machine airborne now."

Homer: "I call President!"

Mr. Burns: "Vice-President"

Smithers: "ohhhhh!"