What Us Wants

[Prince of PAWOBs]

Medical disability: 70

During the first eight months of 2004, the company lost about 9 pilots per month to medical disability.

The statistics presented do not indicate if any of these are work-related. Personally, I would like to know how many actually are, and for that matter what happened that caused a pilot to get hurt.

 

[N924PS]

n9,

I don't agree with your comment. Any employer that believes survivablity is by way of exploiting the employees and stripping them to a level of poverty, and admitting that that way is still a gamble to survive, should not be in business.

Like it or lump it, that opinion of 700 is very easily deduced; but not by those folks on the inside (like yourself) that are in denial. This plan of management is just a last stab effort and gamble to save the stakeholders investment.

Don't keep fooling yourself or deluding others to think that if they have an opinion of the "real reality", that they should just leave, so the YES sayers can "lower the bar" for the rest of the damn industry. :angry: :angry:

Pit

All I can say is if there is anyone in denial it is you. If you don't believe that the LCC's have completely changed the paradigm of the industry going forward you are sadly mistaken.

To papaphrase from on old Bruce Springsteen song "These jobs are gone forever and they ain't comin' back."

Mr. Bronner will recover his investment one way or another, that I am certain.

So many on this Forum always say they have something better lined up or it would be easy to move elsewhere at better pay/working conditions. But, they're still employed by U. Why is that? Maybe the grass isn't as green as some might profess.

 

[N628AU]

Is ALPA is anything like the other unions, no one is getting recalled to fill open positions.

Also, If the plan is 320 mainline aircraft, I would not believe anyone would get recalled for that either. Just another carrot while ALPA is whpped with stick from behind.

 

[delldude]

Pit

All I can say is if there is anyone in denial it is you. If you don't believe that the LCC's have completely changed the paradigm of the industry going forward you are sadly mistaken.

To papaphrase from on old Bruce Springsteen song "These jobs are gone forever and they ain't comin' back."

Mr. Bronner will recover his investment one way or another, that I am certain.

So many on this Forum always say they have something better lined up or it would be easy to move elsewhere at better pay/working conditions. But, they're still employed by U. Why is that? Maybe the grass isn't as green as some might profess.

So many on this Forum always say they have something better lined up or it would be easy to move elsewhere at better pay/working conditions. But, they're still employed by U. Why is that?

hows about for the near term,might as well ride this thing in for what its worth?
slight chance it will work...more likely forced into BK by those mean,wicked,evil ,nasty unionists.....
best bet for jerrold and company is to whine,cry and snivel before some BK judge to get contracts THEY can live with....
stay tuned...this is going to be the best yet !

 

[Furloughedagain]

OFF TOPIC:

Does anyone else find it somewhat spooky how much C. Montgomery Burns resembles former PIT Captain Rep, John Davis?

Coincidence? or are they related?

 

[delldude]

OFF TOPIC:

Does anyone else find it somewhat spooky how much C. Montgomery Burns resembles former PIT Captain Rep, John Davis?

Coincidence? or are they related?

hows about the resemblence of dr.bronner to jesus?

 

[RowUnderDCA]

hows about the resemblence of dr.bronner to jesus?

Don't you mean "Jeebus?"

 

[mweiss]

hows about for the near term,might as well ride this thing in for what its worth?

I've got a good reason not to follow that strategy. When US ceases operations, there will suddenly be many people looking for jobs. The job market isn't going to be able to absorb that many people at once, so many of them are going to be jobless for a good while. The ones who get out early will get jobs before the rush.

 

[delldude]

I've got a good reason not to follow that strategy. When US ceases operations, there will suddenly be many people looking for jobs. The job market isn't going to be able to absorb that many people at once, so many of them are going to be jobless for a good while. The ones who get out early will get jobs before the rush.

haven't revealed my master plan.............. 😉

 

[jimntx]

haven't revealed my master plan.............. 😉

May I suggest a new Southern Strategy...

As it is a fine old Southern tradition to have crazy Uncle Jim in the upstairs back bedroom, my retirement plan is to be a burden to my nieces and nephews.

 

[RowUnderDCA]

May I suggest a new Southern Strategy...

As it is a fine old Southern tradition to have crazy Uncle Jim in the upstairs back bedroom, my retirement plan is to be a burden to my nieces and nephews.

Hey, that's my plan. But first I help finance their college.

 

[Busdrvr]

Is ALPA is anything like the other unions, no one is getting recalled to fill open positions.

Also, If the plan is 320 mainline aircraft, I would not believe anyone would get recalled for that either. Just another carrot while ALPA is whpped with stick from behind.

I think the number was miss-quoted, instead of a 320 mainline aircraft airline, I think they meant A (ie ONE) 320 mainline aircraft airline.....

Best of luck to you guys. You produce a wonderful product, and have in the last 5 years had a reputation as THE quality airline of the orginal colonies. Having been myself released from the "golden handcuffs", it CAN be MUCH better on the other side. Prepare, prepare, prepare!!! don't let someone else take control of YOUR future security.

To the folks who say "just quit" (I've said it before myself), at what level would YOU say enough is enough? Free? Do you think there is a point whne you SHOULD say ENOUGH? Do you think it's appropriate to tell someone else what their point should be? Or do you think you should, AS A GROUP (ie union) decide TOGETHER what is in your best interest and act in SOLIDARITY? do you think the management folks who paruse these boards are getting a chuckle that even this level of costs leaves some folks still willing to lick a few boots?

 

[USA320Pilot]

The new business plan envisions 320 total mainline aircraft. With a competitive cost structure the company will be able to return to the capital markets and potential new aircraft could be used B767-200s, A320 family, and EMB-190 aircraft. I understand the economics of used B767-200s at today's market rates provide better transatlantic economics than B757EOW and A330-200 aircraft.

Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

 

[Light Years]

potential new aircraft could be used B767-200s, A320 family, and EMB-190 aircraft. I understand the economics of used B767-200s at today's market rates provide better transatlantic economics than B757EOW and A330-200 aircraft.

US Airways has 15 A330-200s on order to start delivery in 2006 (I know, if they're around blah blah blah). These will presumably replace the 767-200s and leave a few aircraft available for additional European destinations. Even if it was a great deal, I dont see US bringing on another Boeing aircraft type when he point is to consolidate to an all Airbus fleet.

If the current fleet consisted of CRJ, EMB, A320, and A330 family aircraft right now, just how much money would be saved? I'd guess it would be pretty big considering training costs, parts and maintenance associated with different fleet types with similar missions. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is, if an opportunity arose to acquire secondhand, same engine A320/A330 family aircraft, and phase out the 757/767 fleet, is it a smart move?

Is the cost to reconfigure and introduce the secondhand aircraft, plus the costs of getting rid of the others (that I'm not familiar with?) outweighed by the cost savings of further consolidating the fleet?

Also, as far as EMB190/195s go, has there ever been any official sign of interest from the company? I seem to remember Siegel mentioning them as replacements for the 737s (which I think is smart), but has there been any mention of 90 seaters in negotiations? As I understand it mainline, not MAA would have to fly them as it stands now. I'm surprised the company isnt foaming at the mouth to change scope to allow MAA to fly them.

 

[mweiss]

do you think the management folks who paruse these boards are getting a chuckle that even this level of costs leaves some folks still willing to lick a few boots?

It sure leaves me bewildered. I love the industry, but I love financial security even more.