Who To Commend For The Profit?

[markkus757]

Bob - that's the point of a sacrifice. Everyone is supposed to sacrifice something so you can keep your job(whether or not you think everyone shares in the pain is another argument). Did anyone ever try to milk your for venom so we can save lives? Just remember, your UNION voted to approve any concessions. Otherwise, you should have struck and shut the company down. I guess you lost either way.

 

[eolesen]

Funny, I see the pain in EPAYS every week!

[post="283303"][/post]​

For you, the glass is half empty. But the fact you still have ePays to see every week says to me that the glass is still half full.

Had AMR gone the route of bankruptcy instead of asking for concessions, based on what's happened at USAirways, Alaska, and United, many of the employees on this board would have probably seen their jobs outsourced.

So, continue to see the glass as half empty if you prefer. Instead, I thank God that I'm still employed, and continue to pray I'll be able to retire as planned in 2021 with my pension intact....

 

[Bob Owens]

markkus757,Jul 22 2005, 09:48 PM]
Bob - that's the point of a sacrifice. Everyone is supposed to sacrifice something so you can keep your job(whether or not you think everyone shares in the pain is another argument).

Some of had to sacrifice a lot more than others.

Did anyone ever try to milk your for venom so we can save lives?

No, but you are welcome to try.

Just remember, your UNION voted to approve any concessions. Otherwise, you should have struck and shut the company down. I guess you lost either way.

Well thats another story right there. With the corrupt system the union used we will never know for sure exactly how the vote really went.

 

[Bob Owens]

For you, the glass is half empty. But the fact you still have ePays to see every week says to me that the glass is still half full.

Had AMR gone the route of bankruptcy instead of asking for concessions, based on what's happened at USAirways, Alaska, and United, many of the employees on this board would have probably seen their jobs outsourced.

So, continue to see the glass as half empty if you prefer. Instead, I thank God that I'm still employed, and continue to pray I'll be able to retire as planned in 2021 with my pension intact....

[post="283528"][/post]​

What a jerk! So the next time pay for something and only get half of what you paid for I guess you will be thankful because you didnt pay full price and get nothing!!!

 

[eolesen]

Whatever, Bob. You're miserable. I'm content. I'd rather be a content jerk than be a miserable a$s.

 

[Buck]

Whatever, Bob. You're miserable. I'm content. I'd rather be a content jerk than be a miserable a$s.

[post="283598"][/post]​

Why is it required for TWU represented employees to sacrifice for over twenty years so the company can continue to have a flucuating profit?

 

[Bob Owens]

Whatever, Bob. You're miserable. I'm content. I'd rather be a content jerk than be a miserable a$s.

[post="283598"][/post]​

Well at least we agree as to what you are.

 

[Hackman]

What a jerk! So the next time pay for something and only get half of what you paid for I guess you will be thankful because you didnt pay full price and get nothing!!!

[post="283553"][/post]​

You have to realize Bob, that your debating another AA company man. He's content that he didn't get jammed like us, thank god. He and his tie wearing cohorts didn't get the record concessions the twu handed us (no, the vote was not legit in any stretch of imagination, what twu vote ever is?). Let alone what the twu has willingly taken since 1983. So you hear the constant drone; "Your just lucky to have a job" (heard in 1995 for our 6 year twu contract debacle), "You people need to know your place in society" (heard in 2001 from NWA management during negotiations), "We were going right into Chapter 7 Liquidation" (Jim Do-little and another outrageous lie from the 2003 record twu sellout) I see greedy spineless cowards everyday at AA, both management and union. They could care less about others as long as they can work overtime, still retain their 8 weeks of vacation, and use comp time instead of sick time when they are sick.

We are to be good little wage slaves Bob, and if we don't like it, then just quit. I wish I could retire when I plan to, but each year it gets further and further away. More than likely we will be TWA part 2 where your 70+ and still working because your career and retirement was decimated by greedy corporate executives. Its a sad world in corporate America today, just look at news paper or watch the T.V. news. More is not enough.....Billions in my account is not enough.....Jimmy Buffet playing a private concert for the wife while an ice sculpture pisses vodka....nope, thats still not enough......I WANT MORE.....I WANT YOURS, AND MINE. If I ruin you and your family's life, so what..... I have more than you, I win.

I sure am glad I have a glass, now if I could just find some water..... :down:

 

[seed]

Whatever, Bob. You're miserable. I'm content. I'd rather be a content jerk than be a miserable a$s.

[post="283598"][/post]​

Now that's funny rought there, I don't care who ya are, that's funny rought there.

 

[whlinder]

How one airline flew into the black

How one airline flew back into the black

Emulating low-cost competitors, American uses workers' expertise.

By Alexandra Marks | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

NEW YORK – Two American Airlines mechanics didn't like having to toss out $200 drill bits once they got dull. So they rigged up some old machine parts - a vacuum-cleaner belt and a motor from a science project - and built "Thumping Ralph." It's essentially a drill-bit sharpener that allows them to get more use out of each bit. The savings, according to the company: as much as $300,000 a year.
And it was a group of pilots who realized that they could taxi just as safely with one engine as with two. That was instituted as policy has helped cut American's fuel consumption even as prices have continued to rise to record levels.

 

[Hopeful]

Whatever, Bob. You're miserable. I'm content. I'd rather be a content jerk than be a miserable a$s.

[post="283598"][/post]​

Yea, content being in the permanent bent over position!

 

[MCI transplant]

You have to realize Bob, that your debating another AA company man.  He's content that he didn't get jammed like us, thank god.  He and his tie wearing cohorts didn't get the record concessions the twu handed us (no, the vote was not legit in any stretch of imagination, what twu vote ever is?).  Let alone what the twu has willingly taken since 1983.  So you hear the constant drone; "Your just lucky to have a job" (heard in 1995 for our 6 year twu contract debacle), "You people need to know your place in society" (heard in 2001 from NWA management during negotiations), "We were going right into Chapter 7 Liquidation" (Jim Do-little and another outrageous lie from the 2003 record twu sellout)  I see greedy spineless cowards everyday at AA, both management and union.  They could care less about others as long as they can work overtime,  still retain their 8 weeks of vacation, and use comp time instead of sick time when they are sick.

We are to be good little wage slaves Bob, and if we don't like it, then just quit.  I wish I could retire when I plan to, but each year it gets further and further away.  More than likely we will be TWA part 2 where your 70+ and still working because your career and retirement was decimated by greedy corporate executives.  Its a sad world in corporate America today, just look at news paper or watch the T.V. news.  More is not enough.....Billions in my account is not enough.....Jimmy Buffet playing a private concert for the wife while an ice sculpture pisses vodka....nope, thats still not enough......I WANT MORE.....I WANT YOURS, AND MINE.  If I ruin you and your family's life, so what..... I have more than you, I win.

I sure am glad I have a glass, now if I could just find some water.....   :down:

[post="283617"][/post]​

<_< Since you brought it up! Did you forget about our fellow "Union Brothers" doing everything in their power to get reed of anything, and everything tht was TWA??? Except our aircraft, which they are now working in TUL! While our people are out in the street! As you have so eliqintly put it! " What go'es arround, comes arround!" :angry:

 

[MCI transplant]

How one airline flew into the black

How one airline flew back into the black

Emulating low-cost competitors, American uses workers' expertise.

By Alexandra Marks | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

NEW YORK – Two American Airlines mechanics didn't like having to toss out $200 drill bits once they got dull. So they rigged up some old machine parts - a vacuum-cleaner belt and a motor from a science project - and built "Thumping Ralph." It's essentially a drill-bit sharpener that allows them to get more use out of each bit. The savings, according to the company: as much as $300,000 a year.
And it was a group of pilots who realized that they could taxi just as safely with one engine as with two. That was instituted as policy has helped cut American's fuel consumption even as prices have continued to rise to record levels.

[post="283766"][/post]​

<_< But aa can walk away from $2mill. per aircraft, (Times 20? aircraft) on 767 phum. duct warrenty work, just because the tooling and expertise to use it was here at MCI!!! In fact, after they learned of it they came back and tore the tooling out! Now! Tell me again about drill bits!!!!

 

[Wretched Wrench]

How one airline flew into the black

How one airline flew back into the black

Emulating low-cost competitors, American uses workers' expertise.

By Alexandra Marks | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

NEW YORK – Two American Airlines mechanics didn't like having to toss out $200 drill bits once they got dull. So they rigged up some old machine parts - a vacuum-cleaner belt and a motor from a science project - and built "Thumping Ralph." It's essentially a drill-bit sharpener that allows them to get more use out of each bit. The savings, according to the company: as much as $300,000 a year.
And it was a group of pilots who realized that they could taxi just as safely with one engine as with two. That was instituted as policy has helped cut American's fuel consumption even as prices have continued to rise to record levels.

[post="283766"][/post]​

The appalling thing is that AA was so stupid over DECADES to not sharpen drills. I have sharpened drill bits freehand since the Fifties, and there have been fixtures around since the Twenties (at least). Even Sears sold them. I have one. And the Drill Doctor is so easy to use to sharpen a drill that a non-mechanic could use it. I suggested resharpening in the Sixties, and it went nowhere. So, while AA is trumpeting their genius at cutting costs, they are also advertising just how wasteful they were for decades. And there are examples all over the place, just like this one. No one listens. Even today, in our tough times, I use a medical device that AA rents. If they bought it, it would be cheaper in 14 months. But, no, they can't change. I tried, but no one cared. But we always hear about the medical expenses.

And this is just one example.

But this is just not simple AA bashing, it is so typical of how a large organization functions. I suspect employees of other, inertia-bound companies can cite similar examples.

And the "group of pilots who discovered they could taxi just as safely with one engine as two". Oh, Please! That was old news when we got the 747s, which were taxied on two instead of four. Some operators have been taxiing the 727 on its center engine since its inception. Again, AA is advertising how wasteful they have been over the years.

I wonder how long it will take them to discover the economies of shutting of the APU on the gate. Currently at many stations, the ext electrical may or may not be plugged in, but the external air is seldom, if ever connected, so the APU is run to operate the packs. Neither the APU nor the packs benefit from ground operation, irrespective of fuel usage consideration. This has been brought up, again and again, letters written, and so forth, without result.

 

[Connected1]

I wonder how long it will take them to discover the economies of shutting of the APU on the gate.

[post="283898"][/post]​

Funny you should mention it - the project is currently underway.