Will Del Drop The Bomb?

[MCI transplant]

<_< If the AMFA go'es out at NWA, will Dell pull "ALL" his Unions out in support????? And would "W" Bush step in?????:unsure:

 

[Beer Guzzler]

<_< If the AMFA go'es out at NWA, will Dell pull "ALL" his Unions out in support????? And would "W" Bush step in?????:unsure:

[post="287799"][/post]​

George W will step in with load factors being what they are NW couldn't be down for long without it hurting the US economy.

I doubt AMFA will get "ALL" union support.. Unions don't have the power they once had..

 

[luv2fly]

George W will step in with load factors being what they are NW couldn't be down for long without it hurting the US economy.

I doubt AMFA will get "ALL" union support.. Unions don't have the power they once had..

[post="287804"][/post]​

Even if Bush calls for the PEB, it will only delay the inevitable. There will be a strike unless Congress intervenes which is historically unlikely.

 

[Dizel8]

It is about time, the unions defy the president. The country ws founded on liberty, justice and freedom. A PEB while possible, seems not to be in the spirit of our country.

Bush cares not about the people, in this instance at least, but about those who control the money.

(I do not work for NWA, so will support whatever choice is made)

 

[MCI transplant]

<_< People! You're missing the point! Will Dell pull all other AMFA representative mechanics, from other Airlines, ( United, SouthWest, etc.) out also in support of their NWA brothers, and sisters ??????

 

[mrfish3726]

The Bush administration is not going to touch this one. Especially when both parties walked from the NMB. NWA's doesn't want a PEB, they want the mechanics to walk so they can replace them. I don't think it will be as successful as NWA's management thinks it will be. I still think it will cripple that airline in two to three weeks time. It is something that I think the FAA is keeping an eye on also. I am sure they will be all over this watching and waiting for the SCAB mechanics to screw something up.

 

[mrfish3726]

Beer Guzzler,

Losing NWA won't hurt the US economy! It might be a set back for state unemployement, but not the economy. The government knows that the time has come for the strong to survive and the weak to dissapear. Consolidations, luguidations, or even reducing fleets even more than they already are is what they want.

And as for those load factors, you can see them tumbling in the next 3 to 4 weeks. Fall will be upon us and you know what that means.

 

[Ken MacTiernan]

George W will step in with load factors being what they are NW couldn't be down for long without it hurting the US economy.

I doubt AMFA will get "ALL" union support.. Unions don't have the power they once had..

[post="287804"][/post]​

BG, old george will not step in. The White House has already stated as such. A NWA strike will not hurt the economy as a whole. As for AMFA not getting "ALL" union support that will not happen. All labor needs is for enough unions to support AMFA. If Teamster truck drivers do not deliver cargo by honoring a picket line that would be great. As for the twu supporting this strike it will not be by the international other than a letter stating they will not do struck work. It will be twu members from across the country that will support our profession. Regardless of union affiliation this battle is going to have ripples in our industry for years to come.

If baggage handlers can support kitchen workers in England and bring one of the busiest airports in the world to a halt members of the same profession in this country should be able to unite. NWA management must be seen for what they really are... greedy and anti-labor.

 

[eolesen]

The cynic in me says AMFA's threatening a walk out at all other represented airlines is just a back-door way of begging for a PEB....

Perhaps Alaska and/or United might walk out in a show of support, but I wouldn't expect ATA, WN, or FlyI to do anything more than help man the picket lines over at NWA.

 

[markkus757]

The other airline workers will not stand with them. With everyone losing money by the truck load, one airline liquidation will go along way to help the industry. They will not necessarily cross your picket line, they'll just go around it to get on property. They might not accept any work from NW, but they will not jeopardize their own jobs at the other airlines for something that does not affect them directly.
As everyone else has stated, organized labor is on its last leg. The cancer of their leadership is eating away at the body, killing it off slowly. 🙁

 

[magsau]

With all the under handed dirty tactics that the filthy rotten scoundrels from NWA have employed against the rest of the industry in the fare hikes and competitive issues I hope the rest of the unions turn their backs on the brethren from NWA. All the other unions have been able to negotiate settlements. Why should another airlines mechanic give up his job to help out someone that is unwilling to give the same?

 

[operaations]

With all the under handed dirty tactics that the filthy rotten scoundrels from NWA have employed against the rest of the industry in the fare hikes and competitive issues I hope the rest of the unions turn their backs on the brethren from NWA. All the other unions have been able to negotiate settlements. Why should another airlines mechanic give up his job to help out someone that is unwilling to give the same?

[post="287893"][/post]​

If NWA mechanics go on strike and they go under I hope the other legacy carriers reap the benifits. I pray for all the people at NW. I hope the actions by some selfish AMFA does not cost you your job.

 

[700UW]

UAL and WN's mechs would be in violation of their own contracts if they struck because of NWA, wildcat strikes are not permitted under the RLA or any contract.

 

[NWA/AMT]

With all the under handed dirty tactics that the filthy rotten scoundrels from NWA have employed against the rest of the industry in the fare hikes and competitive issues I hope the rest of the unions turn their backs on the brethren from NWA. 

[post="287893"][/post]​

Again you blame the NWA employees for the decisions made by NWA senior management. Does your airline have a program where senior management solicits the opinions of rank and file employees before making strategic market decisions? Ours does not. All the NWA unions have been on record as opposing the decisions you refer to, often publicly in the media, but you would hold them responsible for those decisions nonetheless?

All the other unions have been able to negotiate settlements.

Again you equate what is happening at NWA with what you have experienced at your airline, without having experienced life at NWA. NWA's actions to date make it clear that it does not want a settlement, it wants elimination. Did your airline demand that? Even in bankruptcy court they did not. You cannot negotiate with an airline that doesn't negotiate, only demand and expect their employees to agree like good little serfs.

Why should another airlines mechanic give up his job to help out someone that is unwilling to give the same?

Why should he indeed, when no one has asked him to. The support of the mechanics from other airlines on the picket lines is welcome, but it is all that has been offered and more than we would have asked. As long as they do not attempt to picket in their airlines uniform, why would that cost them their job?

Sympathy strikes at other carriers has not been suggested, except by many here. Sympathy strikes at carriers not involved in a labor dispute is a violation of the RLA, in fact one of the reasons the airlines are even under the RLA is to prevent such an action. It is also a violation of basic common sense: what benefit would be derived from attempting to punish a carrier like Southwest, which does not declare war on it's employees, for the actions of NWA, which has?

At no point have I seen or heard anyone from AMFA even mention or any NWA mechanic even suggest such an action as anything more than a hypothetical "wouldn't it be great if...", but in your post you've already got someone being fired for it. You decry the actions of NWA management in the marketplace but fail to realize that their current actions against their unions are just more of the same. You still fail to recognize the downward spiral but instead attack those that resist it.

If all that was being asked of the NWA mechanics was that they "give the same" as mechanics at UAL and the other airlines that have taken concessions already, there would have been an agreement months ago.

 

[coolflyingfool]

I think that you would see UA and WN mechanics walking the line, but they would be working. The UA and WN will not be able to pull a sympathy strike without jepordizing their jobs as well. Just my thoughts......