You can take my lanyard, but you can never take my freedom
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ChockJockey
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I think it is both ways. On one hand you have a management that wants its employees to exhibit as little visible humanity and individuality as possible under the guises of "consistency" and "appearance", while on the other hand you have people that really are just that sensitive and self-absorbed to be offended by a lanyard or badge backer (or stickers, lol) and will go crying to HR (or the internet) at any given opportunity.
Either way, it's just another instance of a minority of buffoons ruining it for everybody else, creating yet another rule that will be initially enforced but in the long run will turn out to be more easily ignored than bothered with...
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Layards are staying, It's against NLRB rules to take them away.Even in circumstances when a uniform
appearance (i.e., hat, shirt) is justified, you
cannot lawfully prohibit employees
from wearing union buttons,
stickers or lanyards unless the
display is unreasonably large or the message
is obscene or otherwise disparaging.
appearance (i.e., hat, shirt) is justified, you
cannot lawfully prohibit employees
from wearing union buttons,
stickers or lanyards unless the
display is unreasonably large or the message
is obscene or otherwise disparaging.
I've heard that the rules is that you can wear any one thing that is no larger then a 1" button. That's from a long time ago and I have no idea where it originated. It might be an old HP thing, might be a NLRB ruling. I just don't know. What I DO know is that I'm pissed off that they are not allowing me a lanyard. Because I'm Fleet I get an armband, which I absolutely hate. I don't need an armband, a lanyard will work just fine.
I wonder if a lanyard can be carried if not worn ie pilot bags are not company equipment so if a lanyard was laying across ones suitcase is that ok? I have dayglow ribbons tied on my bags to identify them, is that within company policy?
Bob
I think the bottom line is that they should have just left well enough alone, ignore both east and west lanyards. Whether or not pilots of both sides continue to wear the lanyards is a moot point because from what I have seen and heard what the company has done is to galvanize the pilots over this issue.
regards,
Bob
From the flight ops manual regarding pilot flight bags and suitcases. Pilot flight bag (not carried) must be black, plain. Suitcases blue or black no mention of plain.
Regards,
Bob
It takes one employee complaining to the EEOC that it is a hostile work environment created by the company allowing employees to wear these "perceived" hostile messages in the workplace.
We can't use the NLRB to our benefit on one hand and then say the EEOC does not apply.
We can't use the NLRB to our benefit on one hand and then say the EEOC does not apply.
wopr21
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I think it's a poor attept by the company to make it appear that we are one airline. They can't put the pilots together internally so they put more makeup on this ugly unfortunate situation.
If they really want an image improvement, let's go back to jackets and hats.
Parker needs to set an example by wearing a coat and tie at employee meetings.
Guess the relaxed Tempe business look is doomed
Wopr
If they really want an image improvement, let's go back to jackets and hats.
Parker needs to set an example by wearing a coat and tie at employee meetings.
Guess the relaxed Tempe business look is doomed
Wopr
What I heard was a west captain kicked an east F/A that was wearing a yellow safety first lanyard off the F/A jumpseat, so the company said enough.
Do you not understand that the NLRB adminsters the NLRA, it has nothing to do with airlines. That would be the NMB who adminsters the RLA.
And a company can have a uniform policy, been tested in courts.
