WorldTraveler
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You do realize that all of the union activities are public record. Feel free to publish the "cocktail party" meet and greet info.How are the IAM cocktail party meet and greets working out? You condemn DL for holding them but I'm sure you fine and dandy with the IAM squandering existing members' dues for those events.
Josh
you also have been determined to see things the way you thought they were regardless of whether that was reality or not.
That explains a great deal of why you see the situation at DL far differently than the majority of your peers.
blue collar said:Kev- good luck to you guys n gals.
I think WT saying a union will 'never' happen is one of the first definitive, without qualifiers prognostications of his.
WorldTraveler said:the difference between what DL employees are making and gaining and what other airlines are providing their union-represented employees is
There is absolutely no incentive for DL to pay above average wages if it had a represented environment across the board and you need only look at history in the airline industry to see that the norm among airlines is for unions to fight just to get to average pay with its peers under a represented environment.
DL people stand to gain from DL's growth and increased revenues...
Rational DL employees are not going to risk losing that which is why I can say with certainty that DL is more certain of its ability to eliminate the threat of unionization than ever before.
First you need representation. We haven't had a chance to vote on that yet.737823 said:Kev,
If large numbers of your peers believed there was value in having a CBA why have they gone this long without one?
WorldTraveler said:DL employees are not about to walk away from the best run of salary increases and profit sharing that the airline industry has ever seen.
Who says they have to?
DL employees are not about to walk away from the best run of salary increases and profit sharing that the airline industry has ever seen.
Who says they have to?
737823 said:DL could refuse to include that in the CBA.
WorldTraveler said:because the notion that unions would be added to DL and the employees would continue to accrue increased pay is not reality.
Says who? You don't honestly think that there would be no step increases, do you? C'mon.
Tell me what airline will be passing our profit sharing checks that will exceed $5000 for the "average DL employee" (if it is possible to say one exists) come next Valentine's Day.
The same one that can take that all away at any time, for any reason.
Not only is that real money but it is also something that no other airline is doing - and DL is under no obligation to continue to offer that kind of benefit under a CBA.
DL employees are simply not going to walk away from the gravy train in order to take a chance with unions that are coming nowhere close to offering DL employees the pay and benefits that DL is offering.
they just won't, Kev.
And I would dare say you haven't and won't walk away from you profit sharing check in the name of putting a union in place.