Ah!...I see now! There's no hope for ever gaining any pay increase without saying goodbye to atttrition, the fleet, ad nauseum? Ummm...help me out with this then: If additional pay means the loss of all hope/etc..errr..How's anyone ever going to get that magically great contract that'll convince the east to bend over for the nicster?
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Ah!...I see now! There's no hope for ever gaining any pay increase without saying goodbye to atttrition, the fleet, ad nauseum? Ummm...help me out with this then: If additional pay means the loss of all hope/etc..errr..How's anyone ever going to get that magically great contract that'll convince the east to bend over for the nicster?
NIC, not sure I am with ya attrition? their contract has a min block hour provision if they get it the bowl stays full! MM! And the newby's will be more compensated than well the rest, not good!
The vaunted attrition will not keep pace with the downsizing and there would be no newbies. It is a moot subject anyway, because usapa is not going to get the result they sought from the arbitrator. However, the act of seeking will be more evidence at the damages trial, where the continued DFR violations of usapa are going to catch up to them.
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US Airways flight makes emergency landing at Rochester airport
Posted at: 03/11/2010 10:51 AM | Updated at: 03/11/2010 8:18 PM
By: Pat McGonigle | WHEC.com
The pilot of a US Airways jet reported a bird strike and an engine problem shortly after takeoff from the Greater Rochester International Airport Thursday, forcing the plane to turn back and make an emergency landing, officials said.
The pilot of Flight 1101 declared an emergency two minutes after leaving Rochester's airport for Charlotte, N.C., airline spokeswoman Tina Swail said. The plane hit several Canada geese at about 2,000 feet and had a problem with one of its two engines, Rochester airport spokeswoman Jennifer Hanrahan said.
The Airbus A319, which was carrying 124 passengers and a crew of five, landed safety at 8:30 a.m. and returned to the terminal.
Passengers said they heard a loud noise followed by the smell of burning.
The plane underwent repairs, the flight was canceled and passengers were shifted to other flights.
In January 2009, a Charlotte-bound US Airways flight struck a flock of Canada geese and lost both engines after taking off from New York's LaGuardia Airport. Pilot Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger, who retired earlier this month, landed the Airbus A320 safely on the Hudson River. All 150 passengers survived.
Reports of airplanes hitting birds and other wildlife surged last year, including serious accidents such as birds crashing through cockpits and crippling engines in flight, according to an analysis by The Associated Press of new government data.
The last bird strike at Rochester's airport was three years ago, Hanrahan said. No one was hurt.
For more Rochester, N.Y. news go to our website www.whec.com.
Posted at: 03/11/2010 10:51 AM | Updated at: 03/11/2010 8:18 PM
By: Pat McGonigle | WHEC.com
The pilot of a US Airways jet reported a bird strike and an engine problem shortly after takeoff from the Greater Rochester International Airport Thursday, forcing the plane to turn back and make an emergency landing, officials said.
The pilot of Flight 1101 declared an emergency two minutes after leaving Rochester's airport for Charlotte, N.C., airline spokeswoman Tina Swail said. The plane hit several Canada geese at about 2,000 feet and had a problem with one of its two engines, Rochester airport spokeswoman Jennifer Hanrahan said.
The Airbus A319, which was carrying 124 passengers and a crew of five, landed safety at 8:30 a.m. and returned to the terminal.
Passengers said they heard a loud noise followed by the smell of burning.
The plane underwent repairs, the flight was canceled and passengers were shifted to other flights.
In January 2009, a Charlotte-bound US Airways flight struck a flock of Canada geese and lost both engines after taking off from New York's LaGuardia Airport. Pilot Chesley "Sully" Sullenberger, who retired earlier this month, landed the Airbus A320 safely on the Hudson River. All 150 passengers survived.
Reports of airplanes hitting birds and other wildlife surged last year, including serious accidents such as birds crashing through cockpits and crippling engines in flight, according to an analysis by The Associated Press of new government data.
The last bird strike at Rochester's airport was three years ago, Hanrahan said. No one was hurt.
For more Rochester, N.Y. news go to our website www.whec.com.
""This particular arbitration will, in my view, be one of the shortest in history and it won't be favorable for the pilot group." - Don M. Hollerbach
Let's see now:
It's understood that you've full contempt and mistrust for the union....but...umm...waitta' minute. Let me go back and re-read what you just posted, as I MUST have gotten it wrong....sigh...Nope. I don't think I missed anything here...so....You actually TRUST what "the company" tells you!!???
I'm sorry, but I don't think it's recall you smell...and I'd suggest you use some additional caution so as not to sink into it any further...bad enough just getting it off your shoes.....
He better watch out or he'll be named in a Federal Racketeering lawsuit. The 'cactus 18, plus Don too.'
Driver,
The famous CPA Hollerbach................my money is on Attorney Donny B. ALPA's Ex. lead negotiator. Donn is very confident. USAPA put on a very good case. You guys out west are about to be spanked by the 9th. Labor Law will not be changed by some desert judge. Bybee will see it your way but not the other two. Your co-founders are going to have a lot of explaining to do!
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You're going to lose your money betting on Donny B. Hollerback, Mowery and Brookman all hurt USAPA's attempt to make a case for snapbacks.
The east is about to get smacked with ripeness. Your treachery will not go unpunished.
USAPA's founder threw you under the bus.
HP
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They stuffed the mail boxes in the crew lounge.........that is a first! I wonder why they didn't print the entire transcript? Remember what happens if there is a change of control......east contract. Somebody isn't sleeping well.
Hate
Just read Heminway's letter.
In it he says usapa published updates and correspondence that blame individually named fellow onion pilots for providing the documents used in the arbitration, and misrepresented how the company obtained those materials.
The letter appears to me to be :
1. a way of trying to manage the expectations out east, i.e. tell them they are going to lose so it is not a complete surprise when they do.
2. be some sort of cover in case hostile work claims start coming in. ( They do not want a trumped up, Cactus 18 style, hassle lawsuit filed against them without knowing they can counter.)
The most interesting thing to me personally was how many times they say cpt XXXX who was the ALPA lec-xxx and now usapa's xxxx, or cpt yyyy who was ALPA's yyyy and is now usapa's yyyyy, disagreed with cpt zzzz who was ALPA's zzzzz and is now usapa's zzzzzz. I thought the east folks cleaned house, but it looks like they kept the same team but changed the name of the union only to get out of the Nic. Man are the east pilots going to pay big in this damages trial.
One thing is for sure...................a bunch of people are going to be wrong around here! One way or another! :blink:
Okay, FG#1 has replied. Anyone else? (Not a slam on you Jim, you have to be the most well read pilot I know, and can't disagree with anything you say)
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