N965VJ
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KL CityHopper doesn’t charge for drinks and they have tasty little sandwiches as well.
1,700 layoffs announced
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jimcfs
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By chance will this start at the SandCastle? Nope, didn't think so. I feel for those of you on the frontlines.
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Why don't we just stop serving anything in coach. That would save money for the company right there. No sodas, coffee, tea, water, alcohol, or snacks for the company to buy, only to give away for free. A customer buys a ticket from point a to point b, and that's all they are entitled to, a ticket from point a to b. If they want or think they are entitled to more, they can by a first class ticket. I do believe that their mind will change in a hurry once the first class ticket is quoted to them. In return they should be allowed to bring more than just terminal food on the plane. Or if that is a security issue, then make sure that all airport vendors sells their goods at the same prices that you can purchase them for away from the airport.
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Stop hand ringing, It hurts your hands.
missthe727
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Why don't we just raise ticket prices and include the soda and pretzels??
There are only so many seats that the discount carriers have and then if the public wants to fly they will have to take the other carriers like ours and pay the higher fare. period.
The idea of trying to make change for all the $20 bills for a $2 soda on a 55 minute flight on a 321 is making me scream PLEASE, PLEASE--offer a voluntary furlough ---it's time for me to take a break from this hell house !!!
There are only so many seats that the discount carriers have and then if the public wants to fly they will have to take the other carriers like ours and pay the higher fare. period.
The idea of trying to make change for all the $20 bills for a $2 soda on a 55 minute flight on a 321 is making me scream PLEASE, PLEASE--offer a voluntary furlough ---it's time for me to take a break from this hell house !!!
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What gets me is this.
Does he really think that people are going to reach into their pockets to buy a can of coke at what? $2? Not gonna happen. They won't even buy a $5 headset on a 9 hour flight!
So XXXX out the revenue. Then factor in the bad will. This does not equal revenue producer.
Why couldn't they have started slow? Eliminate beverages off the a/c and save weight. Announce coke, diet coke and sprite and be done with it and have the glasses be thimbles. This is going to cost more than they make/ save.
Unbelievable. You can't negotiate contracts for synergies, make peace with the pilots, umm, do the HARD work that will yield savings, no you just alienate your customers? Huh?
And then there's the cashless thing. For $2????????????
SNAFU
Does he really think that people are going to reach into their pockets to buy a can of coke at what? $2? Not gonna happen. They won't even buy a $5 headset on a 9 hour flight!
So XXXX out the revenue. Then factor in the bad will. This does not equal revenue producer.
Why couldn't they have started slow? Eliminate beverages off the a/c and save weight. Announce coke, diet coke and sprite and be done with it and have the glasses be thimbles. This is going to cost more than they make/ save.
Unbelievable. You can't negotiate contracts for synergies, make peace with the pilots, umm, do the HARD work that will yield savings, no you just alienate your customers? Huh?
And then there's the cashless thing. For $2????????????
SNAFU
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Ha, chuckle chuckle. . . make sure to watch the better choice CNN. Ah yeah that will make a big difference. Too funny! 🙄
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better idea: why not take out the ovens in the back since we dont serve meals anymore, may be put the pillows and blankets in there and sell them for 5 bucks a piece.
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US AIRWAYS ACCELERATES BUSINESS MODEL TRANSFORMATION
- US Airways Action Plan General FAQs - http://www.afausairways.org/Eline/employ_faq.pdf
- US Airways Action Plan At-A-Glance - http://www.afausairways.org/Eline/at_a_glance.pdf
This afternoon US Airways announced a three pronged approach to help stem the losses the Company is incurring as the result of high fuel costs. The business plan includes the following three components:
1 - Capacity Reduction
2 - Employee Furloughs
3 - "Fees for Services"
Capacity Reductions -
Legacy carriers have responded to high fuel costs by announcing capacity reductions between 10-16 percent. US Airways today announced a fourth quarter capacity reduction of between 6 to 8 percent. The fleet will be reduced by returning 6 Boeing 737 aircraft to lessors by the end of 2008 and 4 Airbus 320 aircraft in the first half of 2009. The airline also announced the cancellation of leases of two Airbus 330-200 that had been scheduled for delivery in the second quarter of 2009.
The industry trend of reducing capacity is predicted to lead to an increase in fares. The Union has long advocated that fare increases are a necessity for this, or any airline, faced with the current economic environment. Most airlines claim they simply can't raise fares with the number of seats currently available for sale.
Employee Furloughs -
As a result of the announced capacity cuts, the company announced plans to reduce staffing across the airlines' system by approximately 1700 employees, including 200 West Flight Attendants and 200 East Flight Attendants. The reductions are anticipated to begin in or around September of 2008.
Both East and West Contracts provide Flight Attendant protections from forced furloughs and require the company offer certain voluntary furlough programs prior to involuntarily furloughing Flight Attendants. Both MECs will continue to have discussions with management and explore possible early outs in order to mitigate potential involuntary furloughs.
Among certain other labor protections, The Transition Agreement requires the company to maintain a minimum number of aircraft and utilization rate of both the former America West fleet and the former US Airways fleet during the period of separate operations. The Agreement also restricts the company from transferring aircraft between fleets. The minimum fleet count for former West is 120 aircraft and for the East, 202 aircraft. As of June 2008, current East fleet is 208 and current West fleet count is 130. Because of the terms of the Transition Agreement and the announced 10 aircraft reduction the Company is limited to any significant further reductions.
"Fees for Services" -
US Airways announced what President Scott Kirby termed, the "pay for what you use" model. This ala carte pricing will now include a $15 charge for the first checked bag. This charge, in addition to the current $25 charge for the second checked bag, will become effective with tickets bought and flown on or after July 9. The Company said that in 2007 37 million bags were checked by our passengers. The charge will no doubt change passenger behavior and the Union is extremely concerned that carry on bags will dramatically increase as will the number of bags forced to be checked at the gate. In a meeting with the Company prior to today's announcement we adamantly reinforced this concern to the Company. The Company has indicated they will increase the presence of customer service agents in the airport to monitor check-in kiosks and ticket counters. In addition agents will also monitor airport security lines to minimize gate-checked items.
The Union's position is to make sure that the carry on limits are enforced by the gate agents and that passengers aren't permitted to enter the jetway with more than the legally allowed items.
The Company announced that beginning on August 1, 2008 there will be a $2.00 charge for soft drinks, coffee and bottled water and the charge for alcoholic beverages will increase to $7.00. Initially the charges will be cash-only. Obviously both MECs have serious concerns over the so called "In-Flight Beverage Programs. The Union was informed on May 1 the Company was considering selling concessions onboard the aircraft and there have been extensive talks with the Company regarding the potential problems associated with this program.
Now that program appears to be a reality the Union will have more detailed comments regarding the onboard sales of concessions in the net few days as we learn more details of the Company's plan.
In closing, there is no doubt the high cost of fuel has wrecked havoc with the industry. The economics of any business is really very simple-if you don't charge what it costs to produce a product you lose money. If you lose money long enough you go out of business. Today's announcement by the Company is simply an attempt to lose less money. The real problem won't be solved until fares rise to the level necessary to transport passengers from point A to point B.
The Union will be issuing further comments addressing the specifics of the Company's new business model as we assess its viability and long term effect on our members.
Thank you,
Mike Flores, MEC President US Airways
Gary Richardson, MEC President America West/US Airways
- US Airways Action Plan General FAQs - http://www.afausairways.org/Eline/employ_faq.pdf
- US Airways Action Plan At-A-Glance - http://www.afausairways.org/Eline/at_a_glance.pdf
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- US Airways Action Plan General FAQs - http://www.afausairways.org/Eline/employ_faq.pdf
- US Airways Action Plan At-A-Glance - http://www.afausairways.org/Eline/at_a_glance.pdf
This afternoon US Airways announced a three pronged approach to help stem the losses the Company is incurring as the result of high fuel costs. The business plan includes the following three components:
1 - Capacity Reduction
2 - Employee Furloughs
3 - "Fees for Services"
Capacity Reductions -
Legacy carriers have responded to high fuel costs by announcing capacity reductions between 10-16 percent. US Airways today announced a fourth quarter capacity reduction of between 6 to 8 percent. The fleet will be reduced by returning 6 Boeing 737 aircraft to lessors by the end of 2008 and 4 Airbus 320 aircraft in the first half of 2009. The airline also announced the cancellation of leases of two Airbus 330-200 that had been scheduled for delivery in the second quarter of 2009.
The industry trend of reducing capacity is predicted to lead to an increase in fares. The Union has long advocated that fare increases are a necessity for this, or any airline, faced with the current economic environment. Most airlines claim they simply can't raise fares with the number of seats currently available for sale.
Employee Furloughs -
As a result of the announced capacity cuts, the company announced plans to reduce staffing across the airlines' system by approximately 1700 employees, including 200 West Flight Attendants and 200 East Flight Attendants. The reductions are anticipated to begin in or around September of 2008.
Both East and West Contracts provide Flight Attendant protections from forced furloughs and require the company offer certain voluntary furlough programs prior to involuntarily furloughing Flight Attendants. Both MECs will continue to have discussions with management and explore possible early outs in order to mitigate potential involuntary furloughs.
Among certain other labor protections, The Transition Agreement requires the company to maintain a minimum number of aircraft and utilization rate of both the former America West fleet and the former US Airways fleet during the period of separate operations. The Agreement also restricts the company from transferring aircraft between fleets. The minimum fleet count for former West is 120 aircraft and for the East, 202 aircraft. As of June 2008, current East fleet is 208 and current West fleet count is 130. Because of the terms of the Transition Agreement and the announced 10 aircraft reduction the Company is limited to any significant further reductions.
"Fees for Services" -
US Airways announced what President Scott Kirby termed, the "pay for what you use" model. This ala carte pricing will now include a $15 charge for the first checked bag. This charge, in addition to the current $25 charge for the second checked bag, will become effective with tickets bought and flown on or after July 9. The Company said that in 2007 37 million bags were checked by our passengers. The charge will no doubt change passenger behavior and the Union is extremely concerned that carry on bags will dramatically increase as will the number of bags forced to be checked at the gate. In a meeting with the Company prior to today's announcement we adamantly reinforced this concern to the Company. The Company has indicated they will increase the presence of customer service agents in the airport to monitor check-in kiosks and ticket counters. In addition agents will also monitor airport security lines to minimize gate-checked items.
The Union's position is to make sure that the carry on limits are enforced by the gate agents and that passengers aren't permitted to enter the jetway with more than the legally allowed items.
The Company announced that beginning on August 1, 2008 there will be a $2.00 charge for soft drinks, coffee and bottled water and the charge for alcoholic beverages will increase to $7.00. Initially the charges will be cash-only. Obviously both MECs have serious concerns over the so called "In-Flight Beverage Programs. The Union was informed on May 1 the Company was considering selling concessions onboard the aircraft and there have been extensive talks with the Company regarding the potential problems associated with this program.
Now that program appears to be a reality the Union will have more detailed comments regarding the onboard sales of concessions in the net few days as we learn more details of the Company's plan.
In closing, there is no doubt the high cost of fuel has wrecked havoc with the industry. The economics of any business is really very simple-if you don't charge what it costs to produce a product you lose money. If you lose money long enough you go out of business. Today's announcement by the Company is simply an attempt to lose less money. The real problem won't be solved until fares rise to the level necessary to transport passengers from point A to point B.
The Union will be issuing further comments addressing the specifics of the Company's new business model as we assess its viability and long term effect on our members.
Thank you,
Mike Flores, MEC President US Airways
Gary Richardson, MEC President America West/US Airways
- US Airways Action Plan General FAQs - http://www.afausairways.org/Eline/employ_faq.pdf
- US Airways Action Plan At-A-Glance - http://www.afausairways.org/Eline/at_a_glance.pdf
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US is already a barebones operation that doesn't work...you honestly can't be buying into Kirby's crap. You had no fat. You closed PIT. There were buyouts. LAS has been downsizing. They've been cutting, cutting, cutting while the others have not been. US is still in the crapper. :blink: 🙄 No, the sky is not falling, but US is falling deeper and deeper into debt.
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I've said it before and will again Kirby is clueless and Parker is just as bad for keeping him in his position. The planes are 85% full raise the fares stupid! not this mickey mouse nickel and dime BS morons we have morons running this airline
jimcfs
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My wife (a kettle when it comes to flying), when I was telling her about the PR, made a good point about the bag fees. Since you have to do a transaction (whether cash or CC), won't that slow down the check-in lines further, meaning you need more agents to help assist pax with bags??
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tea42
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well said---thank you.
