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Dispicable of our SANDCASTLE to once again segregate the groups and only offer the F/A in Pit a buyout !

What about the hundreds of furloughed Pit employees that commute to and from Philly for 5 years now? Why is only one group getting a buyout package?

Flight attendants at US (East) have something in their contract that other work groups don't have: Bumping Rights. The ripple affect could prove quite costly for the company. From the vantage point of passive observer, I think the fact that AFA East was able to secure a buy out in any form, is to their credit. How many airline bases have been closed since 9/11 with the hope (by management) that the senior people would just quit? I think that this SEP is a big step forward in the right direction, even if it's not workable for everybody. Keep in mind, Tempe could've chosen to offer nothing. Those with a backup plan, the $20,000 gross is still a nice cushion to transition out of USAirways. Good work, AFA-East.
 
The IAM Mechanic and Related have bumping rights.
 
HELLOOOO! All groups have bumping rights!

What I find amusing is that the F/A's Don't have a furlouigh clause. So, with that said, why would our viscious castle agree to pay out one group and not give the rest of the people the same option? The answer is always the same, dump on the weak and pit all groups against each other! Now what about PSA? Is PSA now included as mainline in all perspective CBA'S? If so, We don't see any LOA'S on the table. It is a different craft, no? So that would mean any city with PSA is now MAINLINE!!!!
 
The offer is designed to be attractive to those FAs that are close to retirement who do not wish to work the part-time job of commuting.

There is no reason for work groups to fight with each other over this offer. The FA union worked hard to get this package and they would have liked it to be more attractive to a wider group of FAs instead of just those close to retirement. If your work group wants a buyout package, then direct your anger/frustration at your union for not working for you - don't take it out on the FAs.

Part of the Q&A from a recent e-line:

Is there any health insurance available with the SEP?

The only health insurance options being provided in the SEP are COBRA in accordance with applicable law or the Company Access plan. COBRA benefits will be offered for the applicable 18 month period. Flight Attendants who have reached retirement age and are awarded a SEP will be able to access their PBGC benefits and in most cases that will allow the use of the Health Care Tax Credit (HCTC) to help offset the cost of COBRA. The Company Access Plan is not an eligible HCTC plan and therefore not a viable option. We will be publishing the current COBRA rates and updated HCTC information shortly.

The following link will take you to the AFA Retirement Booklet that was published in 2005.
http://www.afausairways.org/Benefits/pension_bk52605.pdf (Adobe PDF File - Viewer here)

What happens to the Sick Bank of a Flight Attendant awarded a SEP?

In accordance with our contract a Flight Attendant awarded an SEP who is retiree eligible will be able access to sick payout options as defined in Section 22.A. 4. of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Those provisions are copied below:

(1) Employees retiring before age 65 who elect at the time of retirement to participate in retiree medical benefits (monthly contributions will be calculated as the total cost of the plan for pre-65 retirees and level of coverage the flight attendant elects: Option 1, Option 2, or Option 3, less the amount covered by accrued sick leave) may use accrued sick pay up to the maximum contained in the flight attendant's sick bank, even if such amount exceeds 1,500 hours, on the date of retirement to fund a portion or all of the monthly pre-65 retiree medical premium.

(2) For purposes of funding monthly pre-65 retiree medical premiums, an hour of sick pay will be valued at $8.20. Forty-one hours of accrued sick pay ($336.20) will be credited towards the monthly pre-65 retiree medical premium until the Flight Attendant's sick bank on the date of retirement is exhausted.

(3) To the extent that the monthly pre-65 retiree medical premium exceeds the available credit, the retiree will be responsible for timely payment of the premium in excess of the credit.

(4) In the event the retiree at the time of retirement declines pre-65 retiree medical coverage, or is 65 or older at the time of retirement, the retiree will be paid $6.70 for each hour of accrued sick leave in his/her sick bank at the time of retirement, such payment to be made in equal monthly installments over a twelve-month period, beginning within thirty (30) days of retirement, or a flight attendant may receive a one-time cash payment, within thirty (30) days of his/her retirement date. The retiree will not thereafter be eligible to participate in pre-65 retiree medical benefits.
 
Are you kidding?????

That is over 6 million for just 314 people. That will NEVER happen.
also add in the cost of those 314 buying brand new uniforms that they will wear for less than 6 months.....I know I spent within 95 cents of my 850.00 limit-----oh well, not my problem.
 
Yeah, I would like to know also if PSA will now be part of the IAM / CWA's CBA'S since now mainline will be taking over their work while 370 employees from PSA were sent packing. Anyone out there know the answer to this one?????
 
HELLOOOO! All groups have bumping rights!

What I find amusing is that the F/A's Don't have a furlouigh clause. So, with that said, why would our viscious castle agree to pay out one group and not give the rest of the people the same option? The answer is always the same, dump on the weak and pit all groups against each other! Now what about PSA? Is PSA now included as mainline in all perspective CBA'S? If so, We don't see any LOA'S on the table. It is a different craft, no? So that would mean any city with PSA is now MAINLINE!!!!
HELLOOO!! C/S agents do not have bumping rights!
 
We did have a no furlough clause, then they furloughed 50% of our group.
 
How do you know?

One of the letters about the buy-out state that they will offer TDY to fill in gaps rather than displace if possible.

March, April and May are the buy-out exit dates. May is when the IT goes into full force and PHL would need all those flight attendants back.

I feel a recall of about at least 300 people possibly upwards of 500. ONLY MY THOUGHTS
 
This is great!

Great news for once, let's hope the people we are tired of go and the people we love stay. 🙂

sky high states: TRANSLATION: OMG, I DONT WANT TO BE DISPLACED TO LGA. COMMUTING IS A NIGHTMARE. PLEASE LEAVE SO THAT MY JUNIORITY SURVIVES IN PHILLY.

LOL!

only stating opinions
 
I'm fine with New York, actually, been based there before. Great base, fantastic crews.

Congrats on correctly spelling big words like "nightmare!" You're getting better every day... almost second grade level! I'm so proud if you.

Next week, we're going to introduce something new- lowercase letters!
 
Congrats on correctly spelling big words like "nightmare!" You're getting better every day... almost second grade level! I'm so proud if you.


sky high states: I'm so proud if you?......HYPOCRITE.

LOL!

only stating opinions
 
I'll be so proud if you just once have a comeback that

a. has anything to do with me (or whom ever you seem think I am)
b. is actually funny
c. makes sense and doesn't look like the ramblings of a drunken homeless person


On topic, TDY is fabulous.
 

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