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Tim Nelson said:
Let's get one thing straight. If I wanted to be political, I'd be itching the members ears like you do.  Fact is, I'm losing political points being on here spelling out your BS.  I have to come on here and be the bad guy telling the members that you guys are stroking them to believe your BS about how the TWU won't be in breach of contract and will put its own membership and financial situation at risk for doing so. A Fairy tale indeed but I can't stop you from your BS. You got away with it at United. 
 
Carry on
Not being political?? Who has a footnote at the end of their quotes for the ticket they are running on? You or me? Won't see one on mine. Who keeps stating " when I'm elected AGC" on several of their past post you or me? You stop your BS and admit it's all politics to you, it always has been. But do me a favor and go ahead and point out my so called BS. Go find a post where I said the TWU won't have to file!! Go ahead, I'll wait. You think you can just say people have done or said things and just because you post it, people will believe it. Prove your accusations Tim. Back up your last post on what you say. Be credible. Fact is I said your concern has been discussed in detail a long time ago. I've never said they won't have to file. Can the company try to make them uphold the agreement they have with them, yes they can try. Will they succeed? We will have to wait and see IMO. Your not being a prophet by saying it may happen. Hell it either will or won't. I'm sure if it doesn't, you won't be back on here speaking about how wrong you were. The negotiating members on here, which I believe are two of us, aren't trying to mislead anyone. We are trying to give out as much info to the members as we can. We could just shut up and not say anything, but we would prefer to brief as much as we can. Don't understand why you keep saying we are trying to pull one over on anyone. I guess you just assume because you post false accusations, people will believe it.
 
charlie Brown said:
Not being political?? Who has a footnote at the end of their quotes for the ticket they are running on? You or me? Won't see one on mine. Who keeps stating " when I'm elected AGC" on several of their past post you or me? You stop your BS and admit it's all politics to you, it always has been. But do me a favor and go ahead and point out my so called BS. Go find a post where I said the TWU won't have to file!! Go ahead, I'll wait. You think you can just say people have done or said things and just because you post it, people will believe it. Prove your accusations Tim. Back up your last post on what you say. Be credible. Fact is I said your concern has been discussed in detail a long time ago. I've never said they won't have to file. Can the company try to make them uphold the agreement they have with them, yes they can try. Will they succeed? We will have to wait and see IMO. Your not being a prophet by saying it may happen. Hell it either will or won't. I'm sure if it doesn't, you won't be back on here speaking about how wrong you were. The negotiating members on here, which I believe are two of us, aren't trying to mislead anyone. We are trying to give out as much info to the members as we can. We could just shut up and not say anything, but we would prefer to brief as much as we can. Don't understand why you keep saying we are trying to pull one over on anyone. I guess you just assume because you post false accusations, people will believe it.
Bravo!
Spoken like a pro fresh off endorsing that united airline pos F other members. I know you. You dont understand? Its impossible for you to understand.
 
rockit2 said:
Anyone on this forum worried about getting a decent contract? Doesn't sound like it.
At the risk of being presumptuous, I think just about everybody from US that's been posting wants just that.

Heck, I'm at DL, and I want you to get one, since what happens to you may ultimately affect me.

The district need to stop their let's get along with the company program.
Agreed. 141 in whole needs to step it up...
 
Tim Nelson said:
Bravo!
Spoken like a pro fresh off endorsing that united airline pos F other members. I know you. You dont understand? Its impossible for you to understand.
Lol, not surprising. Go ahead and ignore what I ask you to do. You put other AGC,s down on here, but yet you are the most uncredible person I have ever read post from. Your statements are so deceiving to the members, but yet you say your here for the members. I'm going to stop asking you to prove anything, because obviously you can't and won't. I'm confident most people already know the real Tim. If not, hopefully they will find you out soon enough. Keep posting your false accusations on what the NC is doing intentionally to the members, fortunately we have a job to do for the members, and we will get it done regardless of what you think.
 
charlie Brown said:
Lol, not surprising. Go ahead and ignore what I ask you to do. You put other AGC,s down on here, but yet you are the most uncredible person I have ever read post from. Your statements are so deceiving to the members, but yet you say your here for the members. I'm going to stop asking you to prove anything, because obviously you can't and won't. I'm confident most people already know the real Tim. If not, hopefully they will find you out soon enough. Keep posting your false accusations on what the NC is doing intentionally to the members, fortunately we have a job to do for the members, and we will get it done regardless of what you think.
You are absolutely right, most know Tim Nelson.
And most of our members in this district finally know you and your buddies that endorsed that sorry pos contract at united. June cant come fast enuf and the members arent as stupid as u think. I know you, and many more know you as well.
Carry on for now!
 
CB   should the NMB grant both us a release   will you folks travel to stations such as ours  and others  to inform and educate  people?
 
Tim,
 
How am I deceiving people on here? I stated you were right that the MOU stated 6 months from merger (12/9/13), the TWU has to file scs. I told people that 9. in the MOU states how a dispute over the interpretation of the MOU is handled. I have stated that the Company tried to screw the US employees over in this whole merger process by negotiating behind our backs. I have posted a flow chart of the process of negotiations under the RLA. Where is any of this misleading or political?
 
P. Rez  
 
robbedagain said:
CB   should the NMB grant both us a release   will you folks travel to stations such as ours  and others  to inform and educate  people?
Yes robbed we will. It doesn't take a release. Just let me know when a good time to come to your station would be, and I'll get it set up with at least two or three of us to come for a visit.
 
Tim Nelson said:
You are absolutely right, most know Tim Nelson.
And most of our members in this district finally know you and your buddies that endorsed that sorry pos contract at united. June cant come fast enuf and the members arent as stupid as u think. I know you, and many more know you as well.
Carry on for now!
Tim
It's obvious we don't care for each other too much. I don't think either of us really cares nor the membership on here that reads this. I simply asked you to back up your post when you said that you have to get on here and correct my BS that I'm spreading. I asked you to prove that I was spreading BS at all. I asked you to show us all. It's obvious you can't do that. The reason is, is because I haven't. You resort to other attacks because you can't back your words up. People don't care about how good of friends you and I aren't. So take your own advice!! And you
Carry on for now!!
 
robbedagain said:
cb  any time you and a few other can come  would be great
Of course next week we will be in DC. But PM me or get with your grievance chair and get a good day for us to come after next week. I usually like giving your guys maybe a week notice so they can be sure they all know about us coming. But no problem, we can do a day visit and educate the membership and answer questions.
 
charlie Brown said:
Tim
It's obvious we don't care for each other too much. I don't think either of us really cares nor the membership on here that reads this. I simply asked you to back up your post when you said that you have to get on here and correct my BS that I'm spreading. I asked you to prove that I was spreading BS at all. I asked you to show us all. It's obvious you can't do that. The reason is, is because I haven't. You resort to other attacks because you can't back your words up. People don't care about how good of friends you and I aren't. So take your own advice!! And you
Carry on for now!!
Cb
Interesting. Well, i dont know if i ever thought that i didnt like u as a human being, my comments certainly are meant objectively. I also have nothing against AH either as a person but he has been used as a vehicle to destroy jobs.
Objectively, you endorsing that pos ua agreement was wrong. Saying it has no influence on AH is also wrong.
Your team lied out their ass cloyding the vote at united. What difference have you made on the eboard? You guys make canale look like an angel.
And your lies on this side are just as bad but, like at united, they wont come to pass until they are revealed by your future actions. You dont want to step out of line as you are comfortable supporting your team that did the dirty deed at united.

Moving forward, you guys havent been successful in moving AH off of a lousy contract and havent covered your bases as a real negotiations team would. Why should AH move to something that could be considered fair if you guys have left big chips off the table?
 
Tim Nelson said:
Cb
Interesting. Well, i dont know if i ever thought that i didnt like u as a human being, my comments certainly are meant objectively. I also have nothing against AH either as a person but he has been used as a vehicle to destroy jobs.
Objectively, you endorsing that pos ua agreement was wrong. Saying it has no influence on AH is also wrong.
Your team lied out their ass cloyding the vote at united. What difference have you made on the eboard? You guys make canale look like an angel.
And your lies on this side are just as bad but, like at united, they wont come to pass until they are revealed by your future actions. You dont want to step out of line as you are comfortable supporting your team that did the dirty deed at united.
Moving forward, you guys havent been successful in moving AH off of a lousy contract and havent covered your bases as a real negotiations team would. Why should AH move to something that could be considered fair if you guys have left big chips off the table?
Tim
Your getting boring!! Again your posting things that I never said. I've told you to prove it, and you can't. You said carry on. Are going to carry on, or do you want to keep posting lies. Post where I said that the UA has no influence on AH. You won't. Again your getting boring to the members on here I'm sure. Either put up or shut up!! You tell people to carry on, but you can't heed your own words.
 
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