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roabilly said:
The "unless otherwise agreed to in writing" language may very well be an insert point for the alliance to challenge the document...
 
In other words, if the IAM/Alliance challenges the validity due to the alliance... both sides would not be in "mutual agreement"...
For the Alliance to challenge anything it has to be a living, breathing entity agreed to by the membership for which at this moment it is not. As of now the Alliance is only words on paper that can claim no challenge to the issue.
 
Not saying I am right nor wrong.
 
I am giving factual information of what has transpired in regards to Arbitration.
 
I have not stated the TWU will file or not file, dont put words into my posts.
 
We are all posting hypothetical situations and scenarios, as none of us know what will happen, now isnt that correct?
 
All I am saying is more than likely the SCS will be filed, but the IAM and TWU as the association and bring the vote out.
 
Thats what a birdie is telling me.
 
Maybe I will see you in MIA, if I make it down there.
 
WeAAsles said:
For the Alliance to challenge anything it has to be a living, breathing entity agreed to by the membership for which at this moment it is not. As of now the Alliance is only words on paper that can claim no challenge to the issue.
Which brings me to my next question... when is the alliance vote projected to take place?
 
roabilly said:
The "unless otherwise agreed to in writing" language may very well be an insert point for the alliance to challenge the document...
 
In other words, if the IAM/Alliance challenges the validity due to the alliance... both sides would not be in "mutual agreement"...
what on God's earth are you talking about? The association isnt even a party nor does ut have any recognized standing. You are just trying to confuse the audience by firebombing the entire topic with ridiculousness and you are playing with the jobs of 30,000 members with stupid.
That is what makes me angry about you and your boys, they are either absolute and complete morons or continuing their blatant pack of lies causing confusion within the membership.

There is a reason why they were yhr only ones to completely F up pre joint talks at united and there is a reason why 70,000 employees already came to an agreement here but management offers less in each newest round of negotiations. Your boys can get away with insulting me but AH doesnt seem to have a sense of humor over our bonehead situation. I guess we cant fix stupid but we can vote stupid out. Otherwise your boys will use the nmb as the scapegoat and go into joint talks with a goose egg unless it completely overhauls its position pretty damn quick.
 
I honestly hope to get to shake hands with all of my IAM brothers and sisters. You've got a lot of good programs I've been told about and hopefully can get in a little exploring on.

I fully support the Association.....
 
Tim Nelson said:
what on God's earth are you talking about? The association isnt even a party nor does ut have any recognized standing. You are just trying to confuse the audience by firebombing the entire topic with ridiculousness and you are playing with the jobs of 30,000 members with stupid.
That is what makes me angry about you and your boys, they are either absolute and complete morons or continuing their blatant pack of lies causing confusion within the membership.

There is a reason why they were yhr only ones to completely F up pre joint talks at united and there is a reason why 70,000 employees already came to an agreement here but management offers less in each newest round of negotiations. Your boys can get away with insulting me but AH doesnt seem to have a sense of humor over our bonehead situation. I guess we cant fix stupid but we can vote stupid out. Otherwise your boys will use the nmb as the scapegoat and go into joint talks with a goose egg unless it completely overhauls its position pretty damn quick.
Which brings me to my next question... when is the alliance vote projected to take place?
 
WeAAsles said:
I honestly hope to get to shake hands with all of my IAM brothers and sisters. You've got a lot of good programs I've been told about and hopefully can get in a little exploring on.

I fully support the Association.....
Fortunately for us MIA will be TWU, not IAM. So the IAM who already has hardly any represented workers at MIA across carriers will have even fewer after the merger. They represented UA-vendored out with their full support. They represented the former NW-vendored out with their full support.

Josh
 
once again the all too famous JP Fraudulent Morgan has to spew his hatred of the IAM     he will never learn a lesson
 
Weassles  very well said sir
 
WeAAsles said:
I honestly hope to get to shake hands with all of my IAM brothers and sisters. You've got a lot of good programs I've been told about and hopefully can get in a little exploring on.

I fully support the Association.....
You obviously have a great deal of experience, knowledge, and most importantly... passion! Your presence in the association will be integral to making it work...
 
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I ask for the fourth time, if the twu and the arbitrator both violate the agreed upon time limits, then what is the point of delay? I dont see any point of delaying things a couple months since the single carrier is inevitable. Our negotiations have come to a grind and at some point, the iam has to get real about the reality of pre-joint talks with a single carrier ruling rapidly approaching.

It is happening. Stupid is happening once again here as it happened at united.

The only way out is to come to reality or blame the nmb and use it as a scapegoat. Where have we seen this before?
 
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