2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[Other People]

Tim. Cool down. Your political agenda is becoming painfully apparent. Vote for me and I'll set you free Brothers and Sisters. Everyone on the current leadership team is to blame for past agreements being ratified by the membership. 6 years ago; according to you, everyone on the Canale Team were to blame for the current conditions of the Fleet and you campaigned in support of the very team you are currently throwing under the bus. When you state Steve Miller is either naive to labor or simply doesn't care you have demonstrated to what lows and falsehoods you are willing to sink to and spread in an effort to get yourself elected. Enough! At this critical time in negotiations, when we should be demonstrating solidarity for the betterment of the membership, you continue to sow the seeds of dissention for your own gain. Character check. 

Be careful of what is being said.  They will tell you whatever you want to hear.  The same team made us think that everything was ok and we gave them our trust for solidarity.  Then they brought back a contract that was really shocking. Eventually they beat down my coworkers and we passed it but not before they lied to us about much of the language in our contract.  If I were you or a usair member, I'd reserve any support for Delaney and his agc's negotiating your contract.  It will come back to haunt you. 
I wish you the best but the track record makes me know better. 

 

[cltrat]

anyone have an over/under on the length of time before Other People is accused of being Tim?

 

[P. REZ]

I'm united Chicago and all of us know Timmy here, it's hard not to.  He is totally eccentric and maybe that was part of what cost him my vote last time, but Timmy and U4C is our choice this time. He offers us a fighter that we don't currently have, and is fearless, bright, and extremely accessible. To his credit, he also joined a ticket of highly respected candidates who have always had the members first.  I'd have him handle my arbitration any day of the week and I'd feel very comfortable knowing he is in negotiations.   
 
If you endorsed my contract then that tells me all I have to know about you, and you didn't do yourself any favors running with 141 rising.  I really don't think they stand a chance in any of our stations and the only way 141 rising wins is if they steal the election through fraud.  We are coming out very strong this time and I have never seen so many of my coworkers so pissed off.  I'd say at least 2,000 votes again, and I haven't talked to one person in my breakroom that plans on voting for 141 rising.  If they get more than 100 votes in my entire station then I'd be surprised.

Other People,
 
You are entitled to your opinion and I only wish you the best. I am asking that if Tim gets elected that you post here in a couple of years, if he hasn't quit, what you think of him. I think Tim is a smart guy but since the AW/US merger all I have seen out of this guy is desructive behavior for us and I don't think he will ever get along in a team atmosphere. I would be shocked if he wasn't throwing his team under the bus within 2 years. 
 
Regarding fraud comment, I think you need to learn more about the candidates before making that prediction. 
 
P. Rez

 

[mike33]

anyone have an over/under on the length of time before Other People is accused of being Tim?

I have to figure out how many email address one can obtain first. I'll get back to you...........maybe if i have nothing better to do....

 

[BLUTO]

anyone have an over/under on the length of time before Other People is accused of being Tim?

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[Tim Nelson]

Other People,
 
You are entitled to your opinion and I only wish you the best. I am asking that if Tim gets elected that you post here in a couple of years, if he hasn't quit, what you think of him. I think Tim is a smart guy but since the AW/US merger all I have seen out of this guy is desructive behavior for us and I don't think he will ever get along in a team atmosphere. I would be shocked if he wasn't throwing his team under the bus within 2 years. 
 
Regarding fraud comment, I think you need to learn more about the candidates before making that prediction. 
 
P. Rez

if there has ever been someone who dont quit, its me. When delaney fired me he said i was done. I think you and him will have a different reality about who finishes after June.

My team is the members. And i work great with teams, always have and thats what made my team incredibly successful winning every organizing election we had. That doesnt mean that i rent my brain to a man who tries to banish and threaten his team to make it his own as delaney has done. It also doesnt mean im a bad teammate if i choose not to endorse a shitty contract. I dont play the concensus.

At any rate, good luck prez but i think our membership has had enuf of the management ass kissers we have in their now that havent done a damn thing for any contract other than blowing careers.

 

[psa8979]

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln.
The Members will decide in June. Good luck to those who seek power and to those that want to retain power. Keep in mind the Members should always be first. Good Luck !

 

[Tim Nelson]

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. Abe Lincoln.
The Members will decide in June. Good luck to those who seek power and to those that want to retain power. Keep in mind the Members should always be first. Good Luck !

+1

 

[Tim Nelson]

I'm united Chicago and all of us know Timmy here, it's hard not to.  He is totally eccentric and maybe that was part of what cost him my vote last time, but Timmy and U4C is our choice this time. He offers us a fighter that we don't currently have, and is fearless, bright, and extremely accessible. To his credit, he also joined a ticket of highly respected candidates who have always had the members first.  I'd have him handle my arbitration any day of the week and I'd feel very comfortable knowing he is in negotiations.   
 
If you endorsed my contract then that tells me all I have to know about you, and you didn't do yourself any favors running with 141 rising.  I really don't think they stand a chance in any of our stations and the only way 141 rising wins is if they steal the election through fraud.  We are coming out very strong this time and I have never seen so many of my coworkers so pissed off.  I'd say at least 2,000 votes again, and I haven't talked to one person in my breakroom that plans on voting for 141 rising.  If they get more than 100 votes in my entire station then I'd be surprised.

The breakrooms have no questions for me other than 'When do we vote?" They are ready and i thin june will be an exciting time when the machine of the membership really makes some sweeping changes.

 

[P. REZ]

if there has ever been someone who dont quit, its me. When delaney fired me he said i was done. I think you and him will have a different reality about who finishes after June.

My team is the members. And i work great with teams, always have and thats what made my team incredibly successful winning every organizing election we had. That doesnt mean that i rent my brain to a man who tries to banish and threaten his team to make it his own as delaney has done. It also doesnt mean im a bad teammate if i choose not to endorse a shitty contract. I dont play the concensus.

At any rate, good luck prez but i think our membership has had enuf of the management ass kissers we have in their now that havent done a damn thing for any contract other than blowing careers.

Oh Tim, did I upset you? Find one past or present GC person in PHX who will agree with you that I am a management a** kisser. You might find a few that may call me an a** but not a management a** kisser. PERIOD. As for you being a team player, right, wink, wink, what was I thinking?
 
P. Rez

 

[robbedagain]

Prez or cb. Can either of u pm me or text me regards to my grievance

 

[Tim Nelson]

Oh Tim, did I upset you? Find one past or present GC person in PHX who will agree with you that I am a management a** kisser. You might find a few that may call me an a** but not a management a** kisser. PERIOD. As for you being a team player, right, wink, wink, what was I thinking?
 
P. Rez

nah u didnt upset me. but u did dime out the phl 22.

 

[P. REZ]

nah u didnt upset me. but u did dime out the phl 22.

Tim,
 
Desperate times calls for desperate measures, get the facts on that one. Did you dime out the US members with the selection of 3 instead of 5 US positions on your ticket?
 
P. Rez

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim,
 
Desperate times calls for desperate measures, get the facts on that one. Did you dime out the US members with the selection of 3 instead of 5 US positions on your ticket?
 
P. Rez

Phl will decide for themselves after reviewing your statement Prez.

 

[700UW]

Violence is criminal, what would you do if you got jumped by a mob and beat up?