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P. REZ said:
Not true, your NC has not agreed to anything yet and we go back June 10-12. Scope is very important to your NC. I want 90% ratification, not a rejection or for it to barely pass.

P. Rez
it's pretty obvious that you guys have agreed to everything but sign the ta. Even by your own words. For the usairways joint contract talks, I hope you don't allow Delaney to cross the T with helping hands and cross fleeting arrangements. That would give your management exactly what it needs to stall joint talks forever. Good luck.
 
mike33 said:
I can't wait for your term sheet tomorrow now that your source has updated you !
It seems like you and the other 3 posters who are the rallying cry for Delaney really have no substance and just complain about Tim.  Also,  you have claimed that the Delaney team is going to deliver, so what can you show us to substantiate your claims?  Others have asked you and your team a very fair question, what has your team done in 6 years?   I can tell you that they destroyed a 60 year contract, what evidence can you show that would give anyone hope to believe what you are saying? 
 
Other People,

We have not agreed to a ta, period. My hope is that we get a ta soon and it ratifies big time. Time will tell.

P. Rez
 
Tim Nelson said:
What is non core? And is that part of the helping hand or taken out of scope? At united, this prick made non core bagroom, some bag running etc.
These terms again?  Over at my airline, Delaney gave up cross fleeting and non core work.  He eliminated bagroom from core work and other functions.  We also have supervisors running our bags and there is no established line on what management can or can't do when they pitch in. Core work was defined by Delaney as loading and unloading aircraft, and that's it. Other than that, I can't understand why this Delaney team loves giving away health care to management when an airline is making millions.  I paid for my wage increase with my health care and after 10 years I get paid $40 more a month after it's all said and done.
 
P. REZ said:
Other People,

We have not agreed to a ta, period. My hope is that we get a ta soon and it ratifies big time. Time will tell.

P. Rez
Do you think the ta will change the health care and scope?  Your response above concerns me as you haven't denied anything wiki has said other than you haven't signed a ta yet. 
 
Other People said:
It seems like you and the other 3 posters who are the rallying cry for Delaney really have no substance and just complain about Tim.  Also,  you have claimed that the Delaney team is going to deliver, so what can you show us to substantiate your claims?  Others have asked you and your team a very fair question, what has your team done in 6 years?   I can tell you that they destroyed a 60 year contract, what evidence can you show that would give anyone hope to believe what you are saying? 
No rally cry at all. Just have to have things on paper to be factual. Anything else is just speculation. As far as tim?...i have no respect for someone who is getting info from the table and using it against our own.  That is just not honorable. But, I can understand that that is what he has to do to get elected?..ok so be it but i'm not buying the BS.
 
During the minor raid attempt just before the association was announced, Mr Nelson came on our FB Group pages to advise and provide ammunition "AGAINST" that push. What he didn't know were two things. #1 we knew very well who Tim was and all the things he's done in his past and #2 that we were well aware of him saying the exact opposite of the things he was saying there on here. On the FB pages he was saying how great the TWU is and how the IAM doesn't stand a chance and on here he was saying how horrible the TWU is and they don't stand a chance.

Credibility zero.

What I think really shocked Tim is the fact that almost within minutes after the association was announced we turned on him. He thought he was using us when the exact opposite was the reality. Can't be much fun for him to realize he was suckered.

Some leadership material there huh?


There are two IAM organizers out there who used to be under Tim's direction that can back up everything I just wrote. They came on one of our pages and started there drive. What was funny is how noticeable it was that it was just a job for them. They would come on at 9 and finish at 5 and never posted on the weekends.

Another thing was how it got to the point where we didn't have to do anything at all. Tim would go after them and then they would go after Tim. They were airing all the dirty laundry and we just sat back and watched the hijinks ensue. It was hilarious.

Tim do you remember there names?

 
 
mike33 said:
No rally cry at all. Just have to have things on paper to be factual. Anything else is just speculation. As far as tim?...i have no respect for someone who is getting info from the table and using it against our own.  That is just not honorable. But, I can understand that that is what he has to do to get elected?..ok so be it but i'm not buying the BS.
You and a few others on here are destroying fleet service by following a group of babbling idiots.  I don't ask you for respect because your mind is deluded into believing the myth that these guys have learned from the error of their ways. What I do ask for though is that once the suck TA comes out that you either crawl under a rock or otherwise leave our people alone.  You and your Local Chairman.  
 
WeAAsles said:
During the minor raid attempt just before the association was announced, Mr Nelson came on our FB Group pages to advise and provide ammunition "AGAINST" that push. What he didn't know were two things. #1 we knew very well who Tim was and all the things he's done in his past and #2 that we were well aware of him saying the exact opposite of the things he was saying there on here. On the FB pages he was saying how great the TWU is and how the IAM doesn't stand a chance and on here he was saying how horrible the TWU is and they don't stand a chance.

Credibility zero.

What I think really shocked Tim is the fact that almost within minutes after the association was announced we turned on him. He thought he was using us when the exact opposite was the reality. Can't be much fun for him to realize he was suckered.

Some leadership material there huh?


There are two IAM organizers out there who used to be under Tim's direction that can back up everything I just wrote. They came on one of our pages and started there drive. What was funny is how noticeable it was that it was just a job for them. They would come on at 9 and finish at 5 and never posted on the weekends.

Another thing was how it got to the point where we didn't have to do anything at all. Tim would go after them and then they would go after Tim. They were airing all the dirty laundry and we just sat back and watched the hijinks ensue. It was hilarious.

Tim do you remember there names?

 
Can you, 700, josh, and everyone else who isn't involved in our election and possible ta just show some respect and either take your rants to another board of stay silent?  *&^ Damn and you wonder why few of us come to this board any more. 
 
Other People said:
Do you think the ta will change the health care and scope?  Your response above concerns me as you haven't denied anything wiki has said other than you haven't signed a ta yet. 
CLT we hear there are catering dates now.
 
IAM Member Here said:
Can you, 700, josh, and everyone else who isn't involved in our election and possible ta just show some respect and either take your rants to another board of stay silent?  *&^ Damn and you wonder why few of us come to this board any more. 
Sorry bro but whatever you guys decide on will ultimately affect me in the future as well. So I ain't going nowhere.
 
mike33 said:
No rally cry at all. Just have to have things on paper to be factual. Anything else is just speculation. As far as tim?...i have no respect for someone who is getting info from the table and using it against our own.  That is just not honorable. But, I can understand that that is what he has to do to get elected?..ok so be it but i'm not buying the BS.
I had to scroll through 4 pages of post where you are now labeling tim as working with AH.  What do you have to substantiate since you accuse Tim of the same thing?  I get it that you won't be voting for tim but can you tone it down and offer anything to the discussion other than endless post about tim?  CLT will come out strong and it won't be a landslide either way and I wouldn't be surprised if tim finishes in the top half.  If Charlie Brown is who I think it is then he lost a lot of credibility over the years and shouldn't be sounding off about how we are just thrilled with him. 
 
Breaking News:

Someone needs to ask Tim about his behavior in IAH, seems someone had some fun that he shouldn't have, guess his degree in theology doesn't mean anything to him, nor the ten commandments.
 
mike33.. theres no way in he!! ill believe anything until I see it in writing..    and if i dont like what i see  simple no vote will be put down from me  period
 
IAM Member Here said:
I had to scroll through 4 pages of post where you are now labeling tim as working with AH.  What do you have to substantiate since you accuse Tim of the same thing?  I get it that you won't be voting for tim but can you tone it down and offer anything to the discussion other than endless post about tim?  CLT will come out strong and it won't be a landslide either way and I wouldn't be surprised if tim finishes in the top half.  If Charlie Brown is who I think it is then he lost a lot of credibility over the years and shouldn't be sounding off about how we are just thrilled with him. 
Do some research. Go back through 593 pages and see who it looks like who continues to post the same thing over and over steering things into politics no matter what it is people are trying to discuss. I'll give you one guess? After you've figured it out maybe you'll begin to understand why it seems like everyone on here is going after that guy.

Many have asked for a thread specifically for the politics but that poster would never do anything there anyway because he knows the audience is over here.

You are right about one thing though. There are 23 people reading this topic right now and I bet no more than 5% of them give a damn about the politics.
 
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