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PHXConx said:
well we will see how well your cognitive abilities are..  you have no earthly idea when its going out but you will make youre own assumptions make the membership AGAIN think you have an idea for what?  a few political points you might glean from saying its going to take a long time? My assumptions are assumptions, i make no pretense to know when it will come out, you on the other hand say it will take a long time to sell it...  based on what again?  oh yea nothing...  
 
you have no earthly idea when the TA will be out but you cant help but try to act like you do... again whats those lottery numbers going to be?
What are you talking about?
 
Tim Nelson said:
I think that 5th bullet point for bereavement leave of a step child is gonna seal the deal for ratification!
Funny thing is that mx seem to be pretty pissed with only getting a 3% wage increase and no signing bonus. And fleet presumably got 13% and a bonus. I can hear the amfa voices now.
Yes Tim you are correct. Those AMFA Vultures gravitating over there are really pissed. They may have just lost those 8 write in votes they got? DAMN!
 
PHXConx said:
no its your speculation on just a highlight sheet, perhaps you should take your own advice?
The only speculation is the newspapers which all say we only got a 3% wage increase when in fact we apparently got AMR wages or 13%. At least we got our biggest demand in our proposals, ie., bereavement leave for a step child. That one ranked #5th as our best grabs in this contract!
 
WeAAsles said:
Yes Tim you are correct. Those AMFA Vultures gravitating over there are really pissed. They may have just lost those 8 write in votes they got? DAMN!
I read earlier today that AMFA plans on filing cards in August. However, imo, their organizing drives don't seem too well organized and my hunch is that they won't file. But the US AIRWAYS mechanics prolly are pissed. A couple 3% raises and no signing bonus just to get an increase in license pay?  I thought they said they were negotiating a industry standard contract?
 
Tim Nelson said:
The only speculation is the newspapers which all say we only got a 3% wage increase when in fact we apparently got AMR wages or 13%. At least we got our biggest demand in our proposals, ie., bereavement leave for a step child. That one ranked #5th as our best grabs in this contract!
Tim read it again. It's a progressive raise that reaches parity with us in 14 months. Same as maintenance.
 
Tim Nelson said:
I read earlier today that AMFA plans on filing cards in August. However, imo, their organizing drives don't seem too well organized and my hunch is that they won't file. But the US AIRWAYS mechanics prolly are pissed. A couple 3% raises and no signing bonus just to get an increase in license pay?  I thought they said they were negotiating a industry standard contract?
Bigger picture Tim. Industry averaging in 14 months.

And AMFA is NOT happening period. Ridiculous waste of time all full of hot air.
 
WeAAsles said:
Tim read it again. It's a progressive raise that reaches parity with us in 14 months. Same as maintenance.
Baskett told CLT we get AMR wages by September, not in 14 months as you say.
 
And Tim the bereavement thing you seem to have a problem with is not 5th. It's 11th.

A little off there buddy.
 
Tim Nelson said:
Baskett told CLT we get AMR wages by September, not in 14 months as you say.
Possible? If so even better then huh? That and the averaging in Sept 2015.

Unlike you though I'll wait to read the ENTIRE TA before I wax poetically.
 
I'm going to bed there Tim. Listen to that latest Tube I posted for you. It'll soothe that savage you got there.
 
Tim Nelson said:
The only speculation is the newspapers which all say we only got a 3% wage increase when in fact we apparently got AMR wages or 13%. At least we got our biggest demand in our proposals, ie., bereavement leave for a step child. That one ranked #5th as our best grabs in this contract!
you argued earlier that it was expected to speculate now you say you didnt do it, you are a piece of work 
 
WeAAsles said:
And Tim the bereavement thing you seem to have a problem with is not 5th. It's 11th.

A little off there buddy.
just like his speculation here, but now he is trying act like he didnt do it, he only hopes no one has the presence of mind to read back the last few pages,
 
he hopes for members ignorance, he is sustained by it..  i had heard alot of this i had hoped it was all unfounded rumors but from what i have experienced most of what i heard seems to be  true... 
 
the only other thing that could explain it is more than one person writes to this account.. and didnt read back the past 5 pages, or i guess he is has more than one personality, and they dont talk to each other.
 
but im not going to speculate on his medical condition i think its just he hopes noone is paying attention and if he deflects and attacks users who disagree, hoping  noone will bother to look.
 
its an alinsky tactic i read rules for radicals... maybe someone  taught them to  him.. 
 
WeAAsles said:
Bigger picture Tim. Industry averaging in 14 months.

And AMFA is NOT happening period. Ridiculous waste of time all full of hot air.
The bigger picture shouldn't be averaging in 14 months. The bigger picture was section 6. You won't get much then, just like you won't get much in 14 months.
And as far as AMFA- don't know if it'll happen or not, but I hope they (the AMTs) do something to better themselves. Not that voting in AMFA will bring an ILC, but it will most certainly give them the accountability they desire.
 
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