2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[Tim Nelson]

really?.....wow... i'm devastated ! lol
 
 Actually, the time limits was the one thing we disagreed on.......... and his "I" / " Me " ego of course

if you disagree with him more then he may start th

Its not in the agreement how many times arbitration will be scheduled.
 
And if he isnt answering them now, he will love to push them all to arbitration, so you gonna tell the members "tuff lucka"?
 
If he isnt settling them, you are going to make him change?
 
I doubt that.
 
Your CBA language:
 

So where does it say when, how and how many times arbitrations will he done?
 
Once an case goes to arbitration and he or she is selected only for urgent cases can you request a hearing in 15 days.

Um, going to arbitration doesnt require mutual consent. Thats why. Your opinion is somewhat hard to follow since it doesnt make much logical sense.

 

[roabilly]

Nah im just pretty pumped about the team im on and how we are absolutely crushing the delaney team that endorsed the united contract at all united hubs that have reported. It is an exciting time for our membership to know that the unifiedforchange team has won the endorsement (prolly 80% of all ballots cast) for all positions in the biggest hub (iah) as well as sfo and den.
we feel pretty good about ord and iad as well although they still have to count the ballots yet. Never mind many small stations who also voted for change.
Alot of hard work between now and june but if we are so honored by the membership yhen i think we can really clean up grievances and better guard against AH trying to get more drop dead dates.

Nelson, who is on your "unifiedforchange" team? What position are you attempting to be elected to... President?

 

[700UW]

And where did I say it takes both sides to agree to take a case to arbitration?
 
Because I never posted that.
 
It requires both sides to agree to the arbiter.
 
You can spin it anyway you want, but you still havent answered how pushing time limits which pushes everything to the next step, which means it will end up in arbitration will solve the problem.
 
Maybe because you cant think logically that you cant understand common sense.
 
How are you going to get AH to agree to settle anything?
 
You keep avoiding answering that for several days now.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Nelson, won't address that... he just wants everyone to think he can force the Company to do whatever he wants. Sometimes, I wish he would get elected, just so I could watch him fail to change any of this...
 
But I would never wish that on the Membership...

its in the agreement and its non negotiable. All i would be doing is enforcing the contract. Remember, everytime your boys waive time limits, they have to run to AH for mutual consent.
im not seeking mutual consent when i enforce time limits. Im quite sure that AH doesnt want to arbitrate but he wont be able to count on me to waive off time limits.

 

[Tim Nelson]

And where did I say it takes both sides to agree to take a case to arbitration?

Because I never posted that.
 
It requires both sides to agree to the arbiter.
 
You can spin it anyway you want, but you still havent answered how pushing time limits which pushes everything to the next step, which means it will end up in arbitration will solve the problem.
 
Maybe because you cant think logically that you cant understand common sense.
 
How are you going to get AH to agree to settle anything?
 
You keep avoiding answering that for several days now.

Ive answered everything. I think we have exhausted this conversation.

 

[700UW]

Do you really think Al is stupid?
 
Of course he will push it all to arbitration, as he knows the IAM wont take a case that doesnt merit that it goes to arbitration, and if thats the stand you take, you will see the International step in and put the District in Trustee ship, as you have a fiduciary responsibility to the members.
 
And at $4k a pop, plus other expenses, it wont happen.

 

[roabilly]

And where did I say it takes both sides to agree to take a case to arbitration?
 
Because I never posted that.
 
It requires both sides to agree to the arbiter.
 
You can spin it anyway you want, but you still havent answered how pushing time limits which pushes everything to the next step, which means it will end up in arbitration will solve the problem.
 
Maybe because you cant think logically that you cant understand common sense.
 
How are you going to get AH to agree to settle anything?
 
You keep avoiding answering that for several days now.

Ohhh... this ones easy...
 
He would simply lay in the floor, and scream and kick until AH finally gave-up!
 
I must have worked with his parents...

 

[700UW]

Ive answered everything. I think we have exhausted this conversation.

No you havent.

You keep avoiding it.

 

[mike33]

Nelson, who is on your "unifiedforchange" team? What position are you attempting to be elected to... President?

I recall him saying if he was AGC in Clt....or for Clt?  I'll see at the Noms tomorrow

 

[700UW]

You dont get to pick what City you represent, that is done by the PDGC.
 
AGCs are not elected by cities to represent, they run for the slot on a property, ie US or UA.

 

[mike33]

Ive answered everything. I think we have exhausted this conversation.

I agree...it's turning into a quagmire because one would have to be in the moment to see the difference it would make.....
 
Lets move on already !

 

[roabilly]

I recall him saying if he was AGC in Clt....or for Clt?  I'll see at the Noms tomorrow

I hear ya Mike... let me know how they go...

 

[Tim Nelson]

You dont get to pick what City you represent, that is done by the PDGC.
 
AGCs are not elected by cities to represent, they run for the slot on a property, ie US or UA.

quote mine number 20 by you today. Who knows what city i would possibly be responsible? Kindly hit your back button and review what i said. Key word "if".

Are you off of unemployment and welfare? If so then i hope you redouble your efforts in education. Maybe then you would be able to read a contract and determine that you negotiated your job away. No wonder why you couldnt figure out what the unlimited parg time loa at united was.
And btw what happened to those union funds that disappeared in clt??? Nuff said

 

[700UW]

Slander, libel and deformation of charector is in your future.

Keep up the lies.

How many times are you going to go with the same old lies?

Keep up the attacks,it only shows how desparate you are.

I work for a living I don't get any government assistance.

If you want to try and play dirty, you live in a glass house.

 

[28L_or_10R?]

All of you need to get a life.