2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[roabilly]

And there is your answer right there. Like you didn't already know anyway, you truely are a piece of work. God help us if you get in as an AGC, I hope you do not get assigned my station if you do, you will have zero help/support here.

P.J.
 
Here is my best guess as to what will happen “IF” Nelson gets AGC..
1)      He will have political falling out with someone superior, and will eventually be fired...
2)      He will spend so much time “working” the Pro-Nelson agenda; he will go DFR on his case load... result fired...
3)      He will intervene in cases that aren't appointed to him for political gain... result fired...
4)      All of the above!
 
Unless Nelson quits being Nelson, it will be the same as when he was with Delaney...

 

[pjirish317]

P.J.
 
Here is my best guess as to what will happen “IF” Nelson gets AGC..
1)      He will have political falling out with someone superior, and will eventually be fired...
2)      He will spend so much time “working” the Pro-Nelson agenda; he will go DFR on his case load... result fired...
3)      He will intervene in cases that aren't appointed to him for political gain... result fired...
4)      All of the above!
 
Unless Nelson quits being Nelson, it will be the same as when he was with Delaney...

ROA,
 
True enough, if he would only stop and LISTEN to other people's opinions, instead of preaching his own as gospel, because that is all he has at this point regarding US negotiations, opinions, he may have a chance. Sadly I do not see that happening though. I for one will reserve my judgement for when we actually have something to read and vote on. Than and only then will we actually know who was right or wrong here.

 

[737823]

And there is your answer right there. Like you didn't already know anyway, you truely are a piece of work. God help us if you get in as an AGC, I hope you do not get assigned my station if you do, you will have zero help/support here.

I'm running for AGC? News to me, considering I don't work for US nor am I an IAM member. Are you suggesting you think I am Tim?

Josh

 

[Tim Nelson]

Are they US aircraft or AA aircraft? That would be your answer. Why do you have to be such a douche? It's really not that hard to figure out who will work what now is it.

they are all usairways aircraft. I didnt mention this for you to be a dick about it. And its an issue that you or rdu need to be aware of. Its not simple. Cross fleeting at united had your boys bend over with their pants down.

 

[pjirish317]

I'm running for AGC? News to me, considering I don't work for US nor am I an IAM member. Are you suggesting you think I am Tim?

Josh

actually Josh, that was for Tim. He asked who would be working those flights. You provided the answer. And no I do not think you are Tim.

 

[pjirish317]

they are all usairways aircraft. I didnt mention this for you to be a dick about it. And its an issue that you or rdu need to be aware of. Its not simple. Cross fleeting at united had your boys bend over with their pants down.

Tim,
 
I was being a d*%k about it because you know the answer but felt compelled to ask the question. What is the issue, if it is a US aircraft, US people work it, if it is an AA aircraft, AA people work it, so simple even you can understand it. But hey you have all the answers anyway, so why bother, you will just tell us "how it's gonna be" anyway, the never wrong gospel according to tim.

 

[pjirish317]

Ok Tim, how can the company "cross fleet" when the pilots are not combined into a single group yet nor do we have a single operating certificate per the FAA?

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim,
 
I was being a d*%k about it because you know the answer but felt compelled to ask the question. What is the issue, if it is a US aircraft, US people work it, if it is an AA aircraft, AA people work it, so simple even you can understand it. But hey you have all the answers anyway, so why bother, you will just tell us "how it's gonna be" anyway, the never wrong gospel according to tim.

um, well, no i dont have all the answers thats why it was a question. Knowing how team delaney F our members at united by rolling over and waiving off metal grievances, we should both be concerned over any side deal with management over cross fleeting. In mia who is going to do our aircraft flights to dtw?

 

[pjirish317]

um, well, no i dont have all the answers thats why it was a question. Knowing how team delaney F our members at united by rolling over and waiving off metal grievances, we should both be concerned over any side deal with management over cross fleeting. In mia who is going to do our aircraft flights to dtw?

Well if they are OUR flights US people will work them, Nuff said. Why are you being such a d*%k about this anyway? You know that if it is our aircraft and we have fleet staffed at that station then it is our work. Because it happened at UA does not mean it is going to happen here, just because you say so.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Ok Tim, how can the company "cross fleet" when the pilots are not combined into a single group yet nor do we have a single operating certificate per the FAA?

they are cross fleeting starting in june. The pilots and stews already agreed that they follow their own airlines metal.

I hope iam keeps a tough line on this. Has nothing to do with operating certificates as much as it has to do with whose work is it.

But mark my words, you got usairways aircraft on mia routes starting july 2. Our pilots and stews will work them and so should we.

 

[pjirish317]

I know we have US aircraft on MIA routes starting in July. Why wouldn't we work them if fleet is staffed at the station? Just because it is a "new" route for US, or an "old" route for AA? If it is a US aircraft, the US people work it period, you know this Tim, why all the fuss?

 

[Tim Nelson]

I know we have US aircraft on MIA routes starting in July. Why wouldn't we work them if fleet is staffed at the station? Just because it is a "new" route for US, or an "old" route for AA? If it is a US aircraft, the US people work it period, you know this Tim, why all the fuss?

i think we will without contention for a while as it does put pressure on management to negotiate with us, but its a fuss for me since i know how team delaney ended up rolling right over at united and waiving off metal grievances by signing a loa saying it was ok for continental workers to work ua aircraft and vice versa.

 

[WeAAsles]

I know we have US aircraft on MIA routes starting in July. Why wouldn't we work them if fleet is staffed at the station? Just because it is a "new" route for US, or an "old" route for AA? If it is a US aircraft, the US people work it period, you know this Tim, why all the fuss?

I've spoken to the USAIR guy working the maxi in the bagroom and they have been advised of the added flights THEY are going to be working. End of story.

 

[Tim Nelson]

And there is your answer right there. Like you didn't already know anyway, you truely are a piece of work. God help us if you get in as an AGC, I hope you do not get assigned my station if you do, you will have zero help/support here.

while it is unfortunate that you would not choose to be a part of resolving grievances at your station if im your agc, i can assure you that unlike you, i will put politics aside and make sure my people have their grievances resolved. You, my brother, will not get in the way of the processing of grievances.

 

[P. REZ]

Prez
july 1 amr is going to start cross fleeting. In mia, it is adding rdu, dtw service and other stations. Are our members in mia working these flights effective july 1?

Is there a reason you were directing this question towards me?
 
P. Rez