2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[robbedagain]

rockit   he sadly cant bec he has to be sure the whole dam planet knows his absolute complete hatred of US US mgmt. team and the IAM   so the JP Fraudulent employee has to keep spewing his crap every thread.  
 
Id be interested in knowing if true with the additional flights  intl wise   what cities would be added    and without additional help yes itd be a cluster f..k but then again DP is one himself    Itll be interesting to see

 

[rockit2]

Tim Nelson,
I heard today from a friend that the Sec/Tres disallowed the endorsements of 22 locals today including IAD, I am freaking pissed

 

[Harry Callahan]

robbed:
This Josh (or who ever is a fuckin idiot. I wish no one would quote him. I've long had him on ignore.
Harry

 

[cltrat]

rockit   he sadly cant bec he has to be sure the whole dam planet knows his absolute complete hatred of US US mgmt. team and the IAM   so the JP Fraudulent employee has to keep spewing his crap every thread.  
 
Id be interested in knowing if true with the additional flights  intl wise   what cities would be added    and without additional help yes itd be a cluster f..k but then again DP is one himself    Itll be interesting to see

well one apparently it's some bloggers opinion which which is like an ahole evryone has one. but I couldn't tell since the link doesnt work.

 

[737823]

well one apparently it's some bloggers opinion which which is like an ahole evryone has one. but I couldn't tell since the link doesnt work.

http://blog.wandr.me/2014/04/cuts-to-american-airlines-seasonal-transatlantic-service-announced/

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/04/15/4843579/american-airlines-trims-new-seasonal.html#.U1bSB_ldXkU


Josh

 

[737823]

Harry,
 
That’s how you can tell DP is at the helm... when there is an increase in flights; there is NO increase in anything else, except bonuses for Management!
 
DP’s motto is... when flights are ADDED, do the following...
 
No additional personnel...
No additional equipment...
No facility upgrades...
No plans for increased bag volumes...
No pre-planning on anything...
No concern if it even goes smoothly!
 
Sound familiar?

If you guys had better representation maybe a good CBA would have a clause to require additional staff.

As for facilities and everything else...this is USAIR afterall. They have a reputation to not provide adequate product and service to their customers and smooth operation so that part is nothing new.

Ever been to Japan? Some how the unions for the Japanese carriers are able to have five agents at each gate leaving their hubs why can't the US agents? The ramp personnel even line up and wave to the passengers as the plane is dispatched! Use your retiree non-rev benefits on AA and go see for yourself.

Josh

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim Nelson,
I heard today from a friend that the Sec/Tres disallowed the endorsements of 22 locals today including IAD, I am freaking pissed

unfortunately Team Delaney disallowed the right to nominate candidates at 22 locals which invalidates the vote of 65% of the membership. Actually that violation of the members is a new record but it just confirms for the members what it already realizes about team delaney

At this time, our focus is on the June elections, not nominations and June cant come fast enough.. We had 86% of the membership nominations as we cleaned up 9 of the biggest locals as well. The membership wants change and wants unified, and i think its gonna make the best of it.

 

[cltrat]

can't make that comparison japan unions are under different laws.
Maybe if the Democratic party was the great savior of unions some here seem to think , they would try to change current laws to give the unions more balls. Hopefully said unions would use those balls to help leadership and not line the pockets of people like Buffy, Roach and the gang.

 

[737823]

I know it is Apples to Oranges and JAL or ANA are run very differently than AA/US but still. Clearly their employees have more effective representation and commitment & respect from their employer.

Josh

 

[Tim Nelson]

can't make that comparison japan unions are under different laws.
Maybe if the Democratic party was the great savior of unions some here seem to think , they would try to change current laws to give the unions more balls. Hopefully said unions would use those balls to help leadership and not line the pockets of people like Buffy, Roach and the gang.

dont forget buffys son who brought in over $200,000 a year. Thats about $1 buffenbarger family taxes for each iam member each year.

 

[charlie Brown]

Harry
I can tell you that they are hiring more people for clt as fast as they can. Also we will be working the AA bag belt also which will be additional head count. And all the work in Team 6 is additional head count. So your buddy that's telling you this info, isn't up to date on the latest.

 

[Harry Callahan]

Ok CB thanks. Appreciate info.
 
Harry

 

[charlie Brown]

My guess is that Parker is referring to the total package. Because of our scope it may very well be, but the Hubs want $$. That is the Rub. So not sure who is talking apples and who is talking oranges.

Mike
You are correct, the company has always looked at the total compensation package. This is what is the big slap in the face to is all. Except for pay, everything else AA has, is a bankrupt contract. Why this company thinks when we are making record profits that they should be comparing out total compensation package, to a bankrupt package is just crazy. But that's what they keep trying to get away with. Every part of our contract should be better than AA,s bankrupt agreement.

 

[Rook]

I watch the "town hall" meeting in PHX and I dont know who was the bearded gentlemen but he drilled DP and that donkey told everyone that the proposal is better than sAA but I guess we will wait and see

 

[ograc]

Mike
You are correct, the company has always looked at the total compensation package. This is what is the big slap in the face to is all. Except for pay, everything else AA has, is a bankrupt contract. Why this company thinks when we are making record profits that they should be comparing out total compensation package, to a bankrupt package is just crazy. But that's what they keep trying to get away with. Every part of our contract should be better than AA,s bankrupt agreement.

Crazy indeed. Yet that is the company's vantage point going into negotiations. Total cost of the entire compensation package when comparing one work group to the other.  The fact it's a comparison of a bankruptcy contract vs. a profitable airline's section 6 proposal doesn't factor into their equation. Additionally, I believe it doesn't factor into the NMB's vantage point either. That is why the company feels very comfortable the NMB will not release. The company is confident the NMB will view their proposals as reasonable movement and prolong the negotiating process. As long as they look at negotiation proposals in this light; they will always believe their proposal is fair. It's the total compensation package folks... not just hourly wage. With that being said... who has better language concerning sick time, vacation time, employee medical contribution rates, scope/job protection language and  pension benefits? Everyone needs to understand this is the battle environment our NC is in. Right or wrong; this is the mindset of the company they are negotiating with. This is the mindset of the company we work for. This is the company's mentality our NC faces in negotiations. The best we can do, as members, in the meantime, is remain united behind our NC and show some solidarity!
LOCK and LOAD!