2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[Tim Nelson]

No one cares what you were doing or who you were doing "events" for. You aren't on the NC, anything you heard is second hand. Get off your high horse.

Refute what Tim posted if you have all this inside information, shouldn't be difficult.

And no I am not on the NC obviously.


Josh

I finally put 700 on ignore due to his avoidance of fleet service issues as he tries to sabatoge this thread and deflect the tough questions and issues of fleet service.  Josh, you might ought to ignore him.  It's a breath of fresh air.

 

[700UW]

I was a US employee and an IAM Member, I was a rep for 142 and the local holding various positions.
 
I am a Trade Unionist, and I will call josh, tim and others out when they post misinformation and lies.

 

[700UW]

I finally put 700 on ignore due to his avoidance of fleet service issues as he tries to sabatoge this thread and deflect the tough questions and issues of fleet service.  Josh, you might ought to ignore him.  It's a breath of fresh air.

This is from someone who hurts fleet more than anyone, with his lies and personal power gain attempt where he fails every time.

 

[Tim Nelson]

maybe ,but no more so than why an "event holder" defends the IAM as you do.

Not sure what 700 is babbling about but wikileaks is definitely someone HE KNOWS.   Wiki has pre-empted things over the past and is 100% spot on.  He is pushing Team Delaney but I have the utmost respect for him [I fully understand Wiki pushing his team under his real name and title].
 
At any rate, can we lose the continual "Breakroom hoopla update?"   Bring back the damn proposal.  If they won't bring something back due to political loss, then bring back the proposal and offer a rejection.  Whatever the case, let us see the damn proposals. This is getting absurd!   And most everyone knows that a release is now dead so I hope they don't insult us with release myths if they decide to continue stalling from showing us the proposals.

 

[rockit2]

Once again you dont answer what is asked of you.
 
Are you or Tim on the Negotiating Committee?
 
Are you or Tim an IAM Representative?
 
Where is the proof of what Tim is claiming is factual?
 
And yes I was in contact with someone in the know yesterday, while I was busy with Erskine Bowles last night.

700, Are you willing to eat crow if the t/a comes back as tim has said. Did wikkileaks post the correct info?

 

[700UW]

I never said it was or wasnt in the negotiations.
 
I said, where is the proof of it being truthful.
 
Thats all, many of you are running with this as it is the gospel, nothing has been released about the negotiations.

 

[rockit2]

All of you that have nothing in this game ( non voting fleet service members) you should keep your comments to yourself. Lives, jobs, homes and careers are at stake if the scope of this agreement is not upheld or improved. UA is a prime example, I have friends at CLT_UA that are effected.
 
700 and Josh.......why don't you guy's start your own thread?

 

[700UW]

This is a message board, do you understand the concept?
 
Anyone is free to post here as long as they follow the Terms of Service, you dont own the boards nor make the rules, so if you dont like it, use the ignore feature.
 
I wont let josh and timmy or anyone else who posts misinformation and lies to get away with it.

 

[rockit2]

I never said it was or wasnt in the negotiations.
 
I said, where is the proof of it being truthful.
 
Thats all, many of you are running with this as it is the gospel, nothing has been released about the negotiations.

I'll say this much....... If Delaney and MF are trying to get an agreement out now for political purposes they should show up at a union hall and take their beating like real men. 

 

[cltrat]

I have no ideal who this wikileaks person is, don't really care for that matter.
I will say last time they were pretty accurate on what they posted

 

[cltrat]

All of you that have nothing in this game ( non voting fleet service members) you should keep your comments to yourself. Lives, jobs, homes and careers are at stake if the scope of this agreement is not upheld or improved. UA is a prime example, I have friends at CLT_UA that are effected.
 
700 and Josh.......why don't you guy's start your own thread?

I can say this , once my time in this little corner of paradise comes to a close the last place you'll find me is here sticking my nose in active employes business. esp when it comes to union bs

 

[Tim Nelson]

All of you that have nothing in this game ( non voting fleet service members) you should keep your comments to yourself. Lives, jobs, homes and careers are at stake if the scope of this agreement is not upheld or improved. UA is a prime example, I have friends at CLT_UA that are effected.
 
700 and Josh.......why don't you guy's start your own thread?

I don't think 700 will respect this craft enough to bud out of our business.  You are better off ignoring him. I should have years ago.

 

[T5towbar]

Ograc., you are correct that scope affects everyone. But with this District was banking on with the UA agreement that people won't move and take he furlough. Take the instance of CLE: The company only opened up 17 spots for PHX, and everyone else went to SFO. That is the most junior hub in the system next to ORD. I think that about 75 to 80 took the system option and went to Frisco to keep their full time. So with most of the line stations that will be outsourced, a FT agent to keep his FT will only have SFO; ORD; and possibly IAH. That's it. The company is taking their sweet time on implanting LOA 6, which can open up places like MCO, etc. This is the so called "job security" that the District bragged about.

Whatever you guys do, preserve your scope. Don't make ouristake and chase the money. We are dearly paying for it now.

 

[T5towbar]

Ograc., you are correct that scope affects everyone. But with this District was banking on with the UA agreement that people won't move and take he furlough. Take the instance of CLE: The company only opened up 17 spots for PHX, and everyone else went to SFO. That is the most junior hub in the system next to ORD. I think that about 75 to 80 took the system option and went to Frisco to keep their full time. So with most of the line stations that will be outsourced, a FT agent to keep his FT will only have SFO; ORD; and possibly IAH. That's it. The company is taking their sweet time on implanting LOA 6, which can open up places like MCO, etc. This is the so called "job security" that the District bragged about.

Whatever you guys do, preserve your scope. Don't make ouristake and chase the money. We are dearly paying for it now.

 

[700UW]

No one cares what you were doing or who you were doing "events" for. You aren't on the NC, anything you heard is second hand. Get off your high horse.

Refute what Tim posted if you have all this inside information, shouldn't be difficult.

And no I am not on the NC obviously.


Josh

So Tim posting it is also second hand, now isnt it?