2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[charlie Brown]

Tim
Just a few weeks ago you were telling everyone that we were settling for less than AA wages. Now your saying it must be over 23.00. Of course your always right. Of course your always wrong also, because you keep changing and changing just so you can later say. " see what I told you guys!! I was right"

 

[Tim Nelson]

That is incorrect sir. Some make 22.83, some less. The average top out base pay is 22.53. And I said it goes to 23.00 in September. You of course for your purpose wants to quote the highest amount.

You are the one that quoted top pay at 22.53. I just checked you and told you top pay was $22.83.  If you would like to quote lower scale pays or folks who aren't getting the total longevity then be my guest.  What is given and understood is that not everyone is topped out, so I don't think anyone needs to quote every step.  BTW, I think the AMR wage scale tops out after 9 years so I hope you guys are paying attention to that one as well instead of branding our peeps with a longer progression.  What  are you guys doing? Sheesh!

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim
Just a few weeks ago you were telling everyone that we were settling for less than AA wages. Now your saying it must be over 23.00. Of course your always right. Of course your always wrong also, because you keep changing and changing just so you can later say. " see what I told you guys!! I was right"

You don't understand.  I felt that most would understand $23 if you enhanced scope, and that many could live with that.  That, sir, isn't what you did so stop your bull shitting.  You and I know what is happening. 
 
Kindly review the last 400 pages on here and if you really listened to what your members said then you would know that grandfathering all stations and enhancing scope was #1.  You failed, partner!

 

[charlie Brown]

You don't understand.  I felt that most would understand $23 if you enhanced scope, and that many could live with that.  That, sir, isn't what you did so stop your bull shitting.  You and I know what is happening. 
 
Kindly review the last 400 pages on here and if you really listened to what your members said then you would know that grandfathering all stations and enhancing scope was #1.  You failed, partner!

I wish you would tell me and everyone what is happening. Maybe you could save me a trip to DFW since we already have it done according to you.

 

[737823]

Its simply amazing or stupid that all of you on here just take Tim's words as the gospel.
 
He isnt an IAM rep, he isnt on the NC, yet many of you on here believe what he is posting.
 
Do you know the meaning of speculation and credibility?

Same could be said about you.

Josh

 

[700UW]

Well we all know you are a liar, master of misinformation and a fraud.

 

[Jester]

Tim
Just a few weeks ago you were telling everyone that we were settling for less than AA wages. Now your saying it must be over 23.00. Of course your always right. Of course your always wrong also, because you keep changing and changing just so you can later say. " see what I told you guys!! I was right"

As long as it will take to get a final agreement and to get a vote, not to mention, have the terms of the contract take effect, 4 months would be quickly resolving the matter.  Ergo, I think using the $23.00 hourly rate would be a reasonable measurement to make as I am nearly certain AA will be earning that higher rate before we ever work under a new CBA and its payscale.

 

[737823]

Well we all know you are a liar, master of misinformation and a fraud.

Are you an IAM rep?

Are you on the fleet NC or ever have been?

Josh

 

[737823]

The butt buddies liars club strikes again:

Were you born a pathological liar or did you grow into it?
 
We never agreed to a contract with US Airways during bankruptcy part 2, our CBA was abrogated, so keep up the lies and deceit, you are a master of misinformation and a fraud once again.
 
Just because you keep repeating a lie over and over and over it doesnt make it the truth.
 
You have been refuted numerous times, come up with some new and factual information.
 

Now where do I start with your lies?
 
Once again I was an officer of the lodge before John Carr was involved, Omer Burdette, Will Cashion and myself help mentor Carr.
 
Second, Carr was all ready gone from the local and at the international in the communications department, he wasnt involved at US nor counseled me on anything.
 
Third, we didnt agree to a CBA with US during the second bankruptcy and our CBA was abrogated, and I wasnt Utility when I left US, I was a stock clerk, so explain to the board for the 20th time your lies.
 
I ran the meeting in ATL and assisted in CLT, the NC never gave a recommendation either way, I campaigned for a rejection and I voted no.
 
So how many times are you going to lie about things tim?
 
You are not even smart enough to tell the truth and you are running for AGC, you a liar and be proven over and over, you are not smart enough to realize people see you for who you are, and your sabotage your own campaign with your lies.

You shared an office with him. Didn't you blame the city of Charlotte for losing your job at USAIR?

Josh

 

[700UW]

Are you an IAM rep?

Are you on the fleet NC or ever have been?

Josh

Are you or have you?
 
Is Tim?
 
And I have never said a word about anything that is on the table for fleet as I have no idea.

 

[charlie Brown]

As long as it will take to get a final agreement and to get a vote, not to mention, have the terms of the contract take effect, 4 months would be quickly resolving the matter.  Ergo, I think using the $23.00 hourly rate would be a reasonable measurement to make as I am nearly certain AA will be earning that higher rate before we ever work under a new CBA and its payscale.

Jester
IMO it could be sooner. If we are able to work something out this week ( IF ) then I think it would be possible to get something in place sometime in July. Station visits is what would take up most of the time, but I think we could get them done in 30 days.

 

[700UW]

You shared an office with him. Didn't you blame the city of Charlotte for losing your job at USAIR?

Josh

Are you just plain stupid too?
 
John and I shared an office way back in the day, I was editor, he was webmaster.
 
John was working in the Communications Department at Headquarters and had nothing to do with US and its negotiations.
 
What is your obsession with John?
 
I have never blamed the City of Charlotte for anything, and my job wasnt outsourced at US.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I wish you would tell me and everyone what is happening. Maybe you could save me a trip to DFW since we already have it done according to you.

I'll be putting out an update on where you guys are at in a few weeks if you haven't closed the gap on scope and settled up by then, and continue to be embarrassed to put out where you guys are at.  You guys think you have the market on what is transpiring in negotiations?   Maybe you don't know who "My Guy" is? 
 
Our membership will be properly informed on the mess in negotiations, although you don't think it is a mess, but I think our membership will.  The only thing you can say if that garbage comes out is "We will do much better in Joint talks."    But myself and others who know about leverage understand that joint talks has less teeth than section 6 and that they are terribly lengthy.

 

[P. REZ]

I'll be putting out an update on where you guys are at in a few weeks if you haven't closed the gap on scope and settled up by then, and continue to be embarrassed to put out where you guys are at.  You guys think you have the market on what is transpiring in negotiations?   Maybe you don't know who "My Guy" is? 
 
Our membership will be properly informed on the mess in negotiations, although you don't think it is a mess, but I think our membership will.  The only thing you can say if that garbage comes out is "We will do much better in Joint talks."    But myself and others who know about leverage understand that joint talks has less teeth than section 6 and that they are terribly lengthy.

AH?

 

[charlie Brown]

I'll be putting out an update on where you guys are at in a few weeks if you haven't closed the gap on scope and settled up by then.  You guys think you have the market on what is transpiring in negotiations?   Maybe you don't know who "My Guy" is?  LMAO

True true
I don't know who your guy is in negotiations. But I do know if I stated 100 different things about a contract. I could definitely come back on here and brag about a few that I got right. And remember, this is all coming from the guy that said that Delaney would take us right in to joint talks as soon as the merger was done. But now your gonna claim your right on some issues. I believe that after the merger was complete Dec 9 and we stayed in section 6, you then became wrong on anything else as far as I'm concerned.