2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[700UW]

And per both Districts there will be a strike vote taken at the sametime as the ratification vote.

 

[Tim Nelson]

And more info came out about info, seems Rick Russo lost the title to Baskett, lol.
 
Ask Russo why he was wearing sunglasses.

Seems your MX are really pissed at their TA.  Thankfully, it appears that Fleet was finally taken care of.  Good luck with the AMFA mess.
 
And with Higgenbotham losing his presidency to Jessica, I heard your boy Tommy Reagon served her papers bringing her up on member in bad standing for conduct at a convention?  You guys are on the verge of F this whole union up by violating members rights and casting out any strong woman who runs for office.

 

[700UW]

Yes MX are pissed and it will probably be voted down from my sources.
 
AMFA mess is at AA, US mechanics are not interested.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim is not being honest.
 
There were only 79 ballots needed in Charlotte.
 
The Local never closed and no one was ever prevented from voting.
 
Only two people handled the ballots after the printed ones, and they were not looked at as the stubs were removed.
 
And this is from the Officer of the Lodge who ran the election.
 
And the Upper Leadership of 141 said what was done was proper.
 
And Tracy Russo got the ballots from the District and only 600 were sent to 1725, and she sent out 100 absentee ballots and knew 1725 was going to be short of ballots and never called the District for more ballots before the election took place.
 
And that is right out of the mouth who ran the election for 1725.
 
Figures Timmy isnt being honest again.

they were not suppose to handle the ballots and cut off stubs. The fact that they did, made them not secret.  If it comes to this, they will have to explain that they were blindfolded to the DOL. 
 
Carry on.

 

[700UW]

Ignoring the rest I see.
 
Your own Candidate failed to ensure enough ballots were sent to 1725.
 
If she cant handle a simple task like that, how is she going to be an AGC?

 

[Tim Nelson]

Ignoring the rest I see.
 
Your own Candidate failed to ensure enough ballots were sent to 1725.

The bylaws and labor law say that the union needs to supply the sufficient amount of ballots.  I'm fairly certain those 79 will not be recognized outside of the District.  Making up ballots that are not official and then having the two tellers tear off the stubs is not only stupid shitt and unprofessional but unlawful.  But you have no idea because you are blinded.   Also, moving the elections to the airport without giving proper notices to tip elections is also unlawful. 
 
Carry on!

 

[700UW]

Spin away.

When I was RS, there was NEVER a shortage of ballots, she knew there were only 500 ballots for the members to use at the Lodge as she sent out 100 absentee ballots.
 
Maybe if she did her job instead of campaigning there would have been no issues, seems to me she set it up for a failure so a protest could be lodged as you knew your slate would never win CLT.
 
1725 did the best they could to fix the situation so no one was denied the right to vote, and if your slate lost by more than 79 votes at CLT it will be a moot point.
 
I have plenty of idea, I ran more elections than you or Tracy and I spoke directly to the person who ran the election at 1725.
 
The onus will be on Tracy and Dave.
 
Tracy failed to have the right amount of ballots at the lodge.

 

[WeAAsles]

Spin away.

When I was RS, there was NEVER a shortage of ballots, she knew there were only 500 ballots for the members to use at the Lodge as she sent out 100 absentee ballots.
 
Maybe if she did her job instead of campaigning there would have been no issues, seems to me she set it up for a failure so a protest could be lodged as you knew your slate would never win CLT.
 
1725 did the best they could to fix the situation so no one was denied the right to vote, and if your slate lost by more than 79 votes at CLT it will be a moot point.
 
I have plenty of idea, I ran more elections than you or Tracy and I spoke directly to the person who ran the election at 1725.
 
The onus will be on Tracy and Dave.
 
Tracy failed to have the right amount of ballots at the lodge.

Ouch.

 

[700UW]

I just posted the events that actually transpired, seems Tim likes to leave out the real important details.
 
The person who ran the election since Tracy couldnt is a friend of mine and everything that occurred was documented, times, dates, people involved and calls made.
 
He and I served as officers together.
 
Once again, Tracy knew only 600 ballots were sent to Charlotte for 1,000 members and she personally sent out 100 Absentee Ballots as RS it was her job and knew that only left 500 ballots to be used for members voting in person.
 
Seems Tim and his gang's M.O. is to blame everyone else and NEVER take personal responsibility.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Spin away.

When I was RS, there was NEVER a shortage of ballots, she knew there were only 500 ballots for the members to use at the Lodge as she sent out 100 absentee ballots.
 
Maybe if she did her job instead of campaigning there would have been no issues, seems to me she set it up for a failure so a protest could be lodged as you knew your slate would never win CLT.
 
1725 did the best they could to fix the situation so no one was denied the right to vote, and if your slate lost by more than 79 votes at CLT it will be a moot point.
 
I have plenty of idea, I ran more elections than you or Tracy and I spoke directly to the person who ran the election at 1725.
 
The onus will be on Tracy and Dave.
 
Tracy failed to have the right amount of ballots at the lodge.

700, I'm very sorry for your pain hearing that there will be an appeal and that we will have our 3rd DOL supervised election over 5 years if U4C loses.  But until you backward goofs can figure out how to run an election, we will continue doing 'redos'.  The rights of members are much more important than you or anyone else's personal ambitions. Sorry.

 

[700UW]

I have no pain, I have no dog in the fight, but I wont ever sit back and let you distort the truth and facts.
 
Tracy failed as RS for 1725, she will fail if she was an AGC for 141.
 
Keep ignoring the fact she knew how many ballots were sent to the lodge.
 
Spin away, time for you to change screen names to defend her and your slate's lack of personal responsibility.
 
No one was denied the right to vote.

 

[Tim Nelson]

I have no pain, I have no dog in the fight, but I wont ever sit back and let you distort the truth and facts.
 
Tracy failed as RS for 1725, she will fail if she was an AGC for 141.
 
Keep ignoring the fact she knew how many ballots were sent to the lodge.
 
Spin away, time for you to change screen names to defend her and your slate's lack of personal responsibility.
 
No one was denied the right to vote.

Sorry 700 but it was Atkinson's responsibility.  He is the one charged with providing sufficient amount of ballots. As you did when I hammered the INTL with a new election......Carry on! 
 
And not in any case should tellers take a scissor and cut the name off a ballot.  That's called tampering.    oh, and it won't matter if they say, "I didn't see"   LMAO
 
The only question is if the INTL orders a rerun this September or if we get a "Two for one" and they allow it to go to the DOL for a supervised election.
 
And it will matter that they switched the voting places, times, and dates of about 24 of the 48 locals as well.  This isn't musical chairs 700.   BTW, weren't you the one responsible for gaffing the 2002 election when Mike Pruitt and John Aulicino were violated in CLT and they got a free pass by the DOL to be placed on the next ballot?

 

[WeAAsles]

700, I'm very sorry for your pain hearing that there will be an appeal and that we will have our 3rd DOL supervised election over 5 years if U4C loses.  But until you backward goofs can figure out how to run an election, we will continue doing 'redos'.  The rights of members are much more important than you or anyone else's personal ambitions. Sorry.

I guess if Tim's team wins he deems that the "rights of the members" have not been violated?

Pretty easy to figure out what sort of representation you guys are going to get if Tim get's in.

This is why I whack you Tim.

 

[700UW]

Sorry 700 but it was Atkinson's responsibility.  He is the one charged with providing sufficient amount of ballots. As you did when I hammered the INTL with a new election......Carry on! 
 
And not in any case should tellers take a scissor and cut the name off a ballot.  That's called tampering.    oh, and it won't matter if they say, "I didn't see"   LMAO
 
The only question is if the INTL orders a rerun this September or if we get a "Two for one" and they allow it to go to the DOL for a supervised election.
 
And it will matter that they switched the voting places, times, and dates of about 24 of the 48 locals as well.  This isn't musical chairs 700.   BTW, weren't you the one responsible for gaffing the 2002 election when Mike Pruitt and John Aulicino were violated in CLT and they got a free pass by the DOL to be placed on the next ballot?

You hammered? That's a joke:
 
 

On August 15, 2013, the Department entered into a voluntary compliance agreement with the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAM), located in Upper Marlboro, Md., concerning the 2013 election of international officers.  The IAM agreed to conduct new nominations and a new election, if necessary, for the offices of international president, general secretary-treasurer and eight general vice presidents under OLMS supervision prior to June 2014.  The investigation disclosed that the union failed to provide notice of nomination to the membership regarding the nomination of international officers, local lodges did not provide notice of their nomination meetings to all members, and members were denied a reasonable opportunity to nominate candidates when some members were working at the time of the nomination meeting and/or endorsement vote and no alternative method of nomination was provided.  The agreement follows an investigation by the OLMS Washington District Office.
 
 

 
The RS of the lodge is in charge of elections, she knew there wasnt enough ballots.
 
Thats the bottom line.
 
Did she call Dave?
No.

Did she do anything about it?
Nope.
 
Did she make anyone aware?
Nope.
 
She failed, you cant have 500 actual ballots for 900 eligible voters who had to vote in person, she as much to blame as Dave us.
 
But hey you and your team will never admit or take responsibility for your mistakes and failures.
 
It shows when you run candidates that have no grievance experience, Al will eat you and your team alive and you will be making six figures while the membership suffers.
 

 

[Tim Nelson]

You hammered? That's a joke:
 
 
 
The RS of the lodge is in charge of elections, she knew there wasnt enough ballots.
 
Thats the bottom line.
 
Did she call Dave?
No.

Did she do anything about it?
Nope.
 
Did she make anyone aware?
Nope.
 
She failed, you cant have 500 actual ballots for 900 eligible voters who had to vote in person, she as much to blame as Dave us.
 
But hey you and your team will never admit or take responsibility for your mistakes and failures.
 
It shows when you run candidates that have no grievance experience, Al will eat you and your team alive and you will be making six figures while the membership suffers.
 

700, half our ticket is up by about 100.  Half of it is down.  Hopefully, the U4C wins outright and the violations didn't cause any harm.