2014 Pilot Discussion

[Res Judicata]

Federal law will not allow USAPA to be dropped out of the process. That's why the freaking law was written.
In the mean time I have moved up 19 percent in one year...

Huh. What does the case law say about that?

 

[algflyr]

You worried about the company shifting flying away from us and to the west and AA? If not, you should 

 
The flying can't be shifted. Didn't you read the MOU?? You said you did, but I'm now thinking you didn't... You see, the MOU prevents that from happening. So, no shifting of the flying. Here is the language you missed:
 
The MOU establishes minimum block hours for American, the East and the West of US Airways. So the East has minimum block hour protections to prevent any "shifting". It's in Paragraph 8 that starts on page 3 of the MOU...
 
These minimum block hour protections (For all 3 pilot groups) started at the POR (Dec. 9th, 2013) and continue until the earlier of either (1), 18 months after a single certificate is obtained, or (2), the date on which a JCBA AND an integrated seniority list are in EFFECT. 
 
Here is the actual language direct from the MOU:
 
"8. The protections in this Paragraph begin on the Effective Date and last until the earlier of eighteen (18) months after US Airways and the New American Airlines obtain a single operating certificate, or the date on which a JCBA and integrated seniority list are in effect."
 
That seems like pretty clear legal language to me...

 

[dca319]

Dumbest statement of the day, your an idiot Move.

Kind of like Kasher will pay? LMAO
Back to your KFC.

 

[prechilill]

Dumbest statement of the day, your an idiot Move.

 
Your vs. you're... 
 
Why vs. Wye...
 
Remember Courtney, be a good union pilot!

 

[snapthis]

While any voyage of that magnitude and complexity is indeed intimidating to even consider....Nevermind. Words just fail me here. "You'se" really just don't get out much, do ya'? 😉

For those of us who flew in the Carribean 20 or more years ago and who will be in the future, maybe it's not a bad idea. 😉

 

[A320 Driver]

More changes..

Mixed metal pairings in May

CS will be building so-called "mixed metal" pairings starting with the May bid.

This means that (former) East Airbuses will be be built into West pairings, and vice-versa. East/West tail number restrictions went away the the POR date.

You will almost certainly see Caribbean flying. In the test runs, the Caribbean legs were all turns, and no overnights.

If you get one, better brush up ahead of time on your Caribbean procedures.

You better brush up on the schedule. We've been operating the Caribbean since before we had Airbuses with 737s and 727s.

 

[EastUS1]

For those of us who flew in the Carribean 20 or more years ago and who will be in the future, maybe it's not a bad idea. 😉

 
That much is sound wisdom snap, and all nyaah, nyaahs aside; it's always a good thought to make sure anyone's current on procedures and local protocols before going anywhere, no matter their experience level, since we're all playing in a game where "somebody's" inevitably changing "the rules" from time to time anyway. 😉

 

[snapthis]

not on mine too much I work mostly wide bodies, you know those planes you dream about flying

You might want to Pre-pare for the day Pre briefs you on the Pre-flight.

 

[Bill Brasky]

You want to hear the funny part?  When USAPA sues the company and APA the west will paying their part of the legal fees or be fired.  I laugh my ass off every time I think about it.

 

[snapthis]

That much is sound wisdom snap, and all nyaah, nyaahs aside; it's always a good thought to make sure one's current on procedures and local protocols before going anywhere, no matter their experience level, since we're all playing in a game where "somebody's" inevitably changing "the rules" from time to time anyway. 😉

Well, the department of change is adding more and more modules related to the changes that lie ahead.....

 

[EastUS1]

Well, the department of change is adding more and more modules related to the changes that lie ahead.....

 
Indeed, with all attendant memos to be promptly delivered no more than say, at least two weeks after they're actually needed. 😉

 

[traderjake]

 When USAPA sues the company and APA the west will paying their part of the legal fees or be fired.  I laugh my ass off every time I think about it.

 
10.a.

"in no event, shall the seniority integration arbitration proceeding commence prior to final approval of the JCBA"

An arbitration over the protocol could commence at any time. The SLI arbitration can not begin until there is a jcba.
 
 
USAPA will be long gone before the SLI arbitration starts, don't forget to sue the Arbitration panel.
 
LMFAO.

 

[snapthis]

Indeed, with all attendant memos to be promptly delivered no more than say, at least two weeks after they're actually needed. 😉

Good observation.

 

[EastUS1]

luvthe9, on 19 Feb 2014 - 7:39 PM, said: Dumbest statement of the day, your an idiot Move.

 
Your vs. you're... 
 
Why vs. Wye...
 
Remember Courtney, be a good union pilot!

"Dumbest statement of the day,.."..? Not sure yet 9; Pre's clearly doing her best to top it, and it's still early. 😉

 

[Bill Brasky]

 
Don't forget to sue the Arbitration panel.
 
LMFOA

Don't worry, traitor.  We're laughing at you, not with you.  Is that what you meant by LMFOA?  Never seen that one before.