2014 Pilot Discussion

[A320 Driver]

Good evening east SCABs.

Looks like the APA called uscaba a bunch of POS liars and hypocrites.


Oh, and when the "three separate lists that are currently in effect" are combined, pretty much count on a straight Nic and AMR slotted result.

Here to make a few more threats this evening nic?

 

[Claxon]

Good evening east SCABs.
Looks like the APA called uscaba a bunch of POS liars and hypocrites.
Oh, and when the "three separate lists that are currently in effect" are combined, pretty much count on a straight Nic and AMR slotted result.

Hey Kiwi, wait till the FORMER east third listers angle their 76 positions over you. The new hires on the 76!

 

[Claxon]

Good evening east SCABs.
Looks like the APA called uscaba a bunch of POS liars and hypocrites.
Oh, and when the "three separate lists that are currently in effect" are combined, pretty much count on a straight Nic and AMR slotted result.

All the while not backing their calls with facts. A lot like you Kiwi. A loud mouth with no substance.

 

[cltrat]

Here to make a few more threats this evening nic?

I'm thinking adding to the lit of errant predictions

 

[Pi brat]

 
Tony is having a melt down.  Time to call dad.

Meltdown? Not at all Greg. Or is it Gregina?
 
Time to call Jeff.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

I'm thinking adding to the lit of errant predictions

Thinking the same thing , now that the NMB is on full notice and the M/B is in play when this game gets taken outa Phoenix( Gilligans Island) The complexion of this situation will change, and it will, like I said, DEC 2018. !

 

[Metroyet]

IMHO, a single carrier status is irrelevant to USAPA's responsibility and right to finish the MB process that was contractually agreed to.   If USAPA loses their rights and responsibilities under MB, simply because of single carrier status, then the APA and the company are wasting time by asking USAPA to agree.  And even worse, the Congress of the United States wasted their time creating a law that would never be implemented.   The APA is making up a very lengthy FUD piece to manipulate the negotiations with the hopes of getting USAPA to agree to a change to the MOU... to abandon its rights and responsibilities under MB.    
 
Think ALPA/TWA.  If APA can strong arm the legal representative into doing something stupid then the APA wins and can't be sued.  This time APA's opponent isn't ALPA drooling over the possibility of getting everyone back into the mothership.  YMMV.

Right. USAPA is clearly in the power position...

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

 
 
IMHO, a single carrier status is irrelevant to USAPA's responsibility and right to finish the MB process that was contractually agreed to.   If USAPA loses their rights and responsibilities under MB, simply because of single carrier status, then the APA and the company are wasting time by asking USAPA to agree.  And even worse, the Congress of the United States wasted their time creating a law that would never be implemented.   The APA is making up a very lengthy FUD piece to manipulate the negotiations with the hopes of getting USAPA to agree to a change to the MOU... to abandon its rights and responsibilities under MB.    
 
Think ALPA/TWA.  If APA can strong arm the legal representative into doing something stupid then the APA wins and can't be sued.  This time APA's opponent isn't ALPA drooling over the possibility of getting everyone back into the mothership.  YMMV.  

You nail brother, !

 

[Metroyet]

APA has now opened the biggest bag of worms this industry will ever see. As per judge Silver the west is NOT entitled to a seat.

Why so fearful of fair representation for all? LOL!!!!!!!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Right. USAPA is clearly in the power position...

Well let us just say APA is in a "FEDERAL COMPLIANCE POSITION"! Remember the M/B was put into law, "BECAUSE OF THEM"!

 

[Metroyet]

DICTA is not an order!

You're alone in that opinion. You've been checkmated.

Deal with it.

 

[Metroyet]

JCBA process and result in a "fair and equitable" final list that integrates the three separate lists that are currently in effect at the "new" American Airlines.
NoNic4U !

You could VERY WELL wish you took the nic when this is over. It's the $200,000 gamble that USTUPID forced every pilot to take.

 

[Phoenix]

Right. USAPA is clearly in the power position...

 
 
If someone is asking for you to say "yes", and at the same time is threatening that your current "no" will automatically become "yes", with or without your agreement... well lets just be honest. 🙂  
 
USAPA is an equally entitled coequal to the terms of the MOU and the MB law, and the APA's negotiating strategy to eliminate USAPA's coequal entitlement via USAPA's capitulation to the will of APA... well, you should count yourself lucky you aren't in ALPA.  🙂

 

[Phoenix]

You could VERY WELL wish you took the nic when this is over. It's the $200,000 gamble that USTUPID forced every pilot to take.

 
Your junior pilots, especially the ones that were furloughed, could be junior to FORMER third listers.  And unlike your unsupported hallucination, my hypothetical is factually possible.  Meanwhile we all enjoy our DOH.  🙂

 

[Metroyet]

If someone is asking for you to say "yes", and at the same time is threatening that your current "no" will automatically become "yes", with or without your agreement... well lets just be honest. 🙂  
 
USAPA is an equally entitled coequal to the terms of the MOU and the MB law, and the APA's negotiating strategy to eliminate USAPA's coequal entitlement via USAPA's capitulation to the will of APA... well, you should count yourself lucky you aren't in ALPA.  🙂

Wrong. Silver accepted your argument that because the West wasn't a CBA, they had no standing in MB. You then went on to clearly prove to her--beyond any shadow of a doubt, what a bunch of lying, hypocritical, POS your fake union was and she completely neutralized you for the same reasons the West was excluded. Everyone seems to get that but your group. With power comes responsibility...you couldn't handle it like adults so it was taken from you.

You "won". Congratulations. LOL!!