2014 Pilot Discussion

[Piedmont1984]

AAviator

In my opinion, USAPA sued APA because you intend to retroactively change the protocol agreement once the NMB declares SCS. You also intend to control the former USAPA merger committee, as in staffing, funding, etc. I have further heard, but cannot prove, that once USAPA is decertified, APA and AAG will modify the MOU to remove para10h.

IOW, it became clear during protocol talks that APA intends to run the table once SCS is declared, using vague language from the MOU and Silver's predictions and prohibitions concerning future events as a justification. That is not the intent of MB.

'84

 

[Phoenix]

AAviator...just curious and have to ask.Any rumors regarding how APA does intend to fulfill its DFR obligations to LCC pilots sans-USAPA? Do you see them APA acting as the umbrella organization overseeing and funding the separate and autonomous merger committees? I would assume this would be the easiest way to comply with its obligation to use MB procedures, avoid any DFR liability for APA and keep management from any interference by allowing them to also escape liability regarding the Nic.

This is about getting away with the best SLI possible. Any pretense about civility, fear of lawsuits, or fairness are nothing more than distractions, deceptions, and decoys. It's just plain ugly under the hood. Don't look. 😀

 

[luvthe9]

AA do tell us all your affiliation with the west since you seem to be obsessed with our board. We would all like to know.

 

[AAviator]

AAviator

In my opinion, USAPA sued APA because you intend to retroactively change the protocol agreement once the NMB declares SCS. You also intend to control the former USAPA merger committee, as in staffing, funding, etc. I have further heard, but cannot prove, that once USAPA is decertified, APA and AAG will modify the MOU to remove para10h.

IOW, it became clear during protocol talks that APA intends to run the table once SCS is declared, using vague language from the MOU and Silver's predictions and prohibitions concerning future events as a justification. That is not the intent of MB.

'84

'84,
I'll have to dig up the letter we got about that and see if I can post it here.  You're trumpeting the USAPA line thats been made public.
 
For the record, APA has no obligation to fund anything USAPA related once it ceases to exist.  How much money is USAPA funneling to Leonidas?  That'll all be up to you.

 

[luvthe9]

This is about getting away with the best SLI possible. Any pretense about civility, fear of lawsuits, or fairness are nothing more than distractions, deceptions, and decoys. It's just plain ugly under the hood. Don't look. 😀

Right on, it's going to be a war especially with APA's history in the past, they are the ones that have caused McCaskill Bond.

 

[traderjake]

With USAPA's negotiating and arbitration history APA has nothing to worry about.

 

[AAviator]

What ya'll got and ratified.    Note the timeline..
 
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/files/2013/01/USAPA-Flight-Plan-to-a-Merger-MOU-explainer-January-2013.pdf
Piedmont84  check your PM

 

[AAviator]

AA do tell us all your affiliation with the west since you seem to be obsessed with our board. We would all like to know.

none whatsoever

 

[luvthe9]

With USAPA's negotiating and arbitration history APA has nothing to worry about.

With our arbitration history APA has everything to worry about.

 

[luvthe9]

none whatsoever

BS, you must be missed on your board then there is no reason for you to be here unless you have a dog in the east west fight.

 

[Phoenix]

BS, you must be missed on your board then there is no reason for you to be here unless you have a dog in the east west fight.

He is probably EagleFly from another board where he is also obsessed about something he pretends to care nothing about.

 

[Pi brat]

He is probably EagleFly from another board where he is also obsessed about something he pretends to care nothing about.

I too noticed some similarities. Maybe Dad of fly?

 

[Bill Brasky]

Westies pretending to be someone they are not is not new here.

 

[AAviator]

Dude, can you at least try and answer any of the questions I've asked you?
 
One last time, I'm not a Westie.  I'm on the AA seniority list and never had a mainline job besides AA.  Nor have I ever worked at Eagle.

 

[electricjet98]

AAviator

In my opinion, USAPA sued APA because you intend to retroactively change the protocol agreement once the NMB declares SCS. You also intend to control the former USAPA merger committee, as in staffing, funding, etc. I have further heard, but cannot prove, that once USAPA is decertified, APA and AAG will modify the MOU to remove para10h.

IOW, it became clear during protocol talks that APA intends to run the table once SCS is declared, using vague language from the MOU and Silver's predictions and prohibitions concerning future events as a justification. That is not the intent of MB.

'84

If APA has a "Legitimate Union Purpose" for doing anything you suggest (and personally I believe they do), they will be in compliance with their DFR to all LCC pilots. Just eliminating USAPA will create praise from the judicial system!