2014 Pilot Discussion
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Freighterguynow
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I give you less than 6 months of joint Ops before you face resignation in lieu of termination.nic4us said:
A process I am sure most West pilots are familiar with.
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Incredibly, there is a rumor going around started by non other than "never been right" Chip Munn concerning the real reason the BPR is asking for a referendum to change the wording of the USAPA Constitution. In his make believe world, the only reason that the BPR is asking for the Referendum is money! Flight Pay Loss top be exact.
Some times I find it difficult to believe that intelligent pilots still believes in fairy tales or Chip Munn. Sadly, he writes something he has completely made up and his minions go out and spread his word. Shame on them. They should know better.
Let me tell those of you new to US Airways. No one knows less about the workings inside USAPA than Chip Munn. He is totally invested in the west getting Nicolau. If that happens, it vindicates all the prophecies he has made in the last 10 years that have been wrong and they are in the hundreds. He needs the west to win and if he can do that by trying to derail the referendum, he will do it. He is hoping that the APA will include the Nicolau award as our starting point in negotiations. The west never had a better friend than Chip Munn.
If you talk to anyone that has been here a while, ask about Chip Munn. Ask about what motivates him. Ask why a guy that is almost totally shunned by this pilot group for past damage he has caused should be believed now?
There is a very good reason why we need to pass that referendum. We need people to represent us that have no secret agenda, have proven in the past that they are pilot advocates and can direct the future that we need to make sure we are not sold out.
If you are curious as to how the language in the MOU gave the APA the belief that they will represent us in seniority, it is because the BPR was kept out of the secret negotiations. We are now in a fight with the APA that is totally unnecessary and should never have happened in the first place. Leaving our future in Gary Hummel's hands may very well lead to more screw ups that are unnecessary.
Please think about what happens to our seniority fight the day after the APA becomes your bargaining agent. Are you willing to put your trust in their "fairness?" We need all hands on deck in this fight. It costs us very little and almost no Flight Pay Loss to keep the BPR, but it may be the best money we will spend.
Vote "no" or don't vote at all if you want just Gary Hummel, with no input from anyone else making all the decisions that will possibly effect the remainder of your career.
Vote "yes," if you want your elected representatives to continue to participate in the strategy and decision making process.
It's really that simple.
The voting website is: https://BallotPoint.com/USAPA
Some times I find it difficult to believe that intelligent pilots still believes in fairy tales or Chip Munn. Sadly, he writes something he has completely made up and his minions go out and spread his word. Shame on them. They should know better.
Let me tell those of you new to US Airways. No one knows less about the workings inside USAPA than Chip Munn. He is totally invested in the west getting Nicolau. If that happens, it vindicates all the prophecies he has made in the last 10 years that have been wrong and they are in the hundreds. He needs the west to win and if he can do that by trying to derail the referendum, he will do it. He is hoping that the APA will include the Nicolau award as our starting point in negotiations. The west never had a better friend than Chip Munn.
If you talk to anyone that has been here a while, ask about Chip Munn. Ask about what motivates him. Ask why a guy that is almost totally shunned by this pilot group for past damage he has caused should be believed now?
There is a very good reason why we need to pass that referendum. We need people to represent us that have no secret agenda, have proven in the past that they are pilot advocates and can direct the future that we need to make sure we are not sold out.
If you are curious as to how the language in the MOU gave the APA the belief that they will represent us in seniority, it is because the BPR was kept out of the secret negotiations. We are now in a fight with the APA that is totally unnecessary and should never have happened in the first place. Leaving our future in Gary Hummel's hands may very well lead to more screw ups that are unnecessary.
Please think about what happens to our seniority fight the day after the APA becomes your bargaining agent. Are you willing to put your trust in their "fairness?" We need all hands on deck in this fight. It costs us very little and almost no Flight Pay Loss to keep the BPR, but it may be the best money we will spend.
Vote "no" or don't vote at all if you want just Gary Hummel, with no input from anyone else making all the decisions that will possibly effect the remainder of your career.
Vote "yes," if you want your elected representatives to continue to participate in the strategy and decision making process.
It's really that simple.
The voting website is: https://BallotPoint.com/USAPA
Were you given permission to post from aaviatior? You were "up" but I believe according to his rules, you can post, but you have to wait until he asks a question first before you get an answer.luvthe9 said:
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Another East "Ace" strikes again! Let's dust off another pedestal!
Following your posts, you are a great conversationalist. You disagree in the way Sulley handled a split second decision. The last time I heard this was from a west pilot in new hire ground school that claimed they saved an East pilot.fifidriver said:
Your thoughts please sir?
http://www.airlineforums.com/topic/56571-2014-pilot-discussion/page-258#entry1061622
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Maybe I missed this earlier, but this was the first I read about this:
https://news.yahoo.com/nose-gear-plane-collapses-philadelphia-airport-232059185--finance.html
Glad it sounds like everybody is alright. I've heard of nose gear collapsing on landing, but not many on takeoff. Well..... a twin Cessna at Diamond point, but that runway was worse than a freshly plowed field coated in concrete.
Bean
https://news.yahoo.com/nose-gear-plane-collapses-philadelphia-airport-232059185--finance.html
Glad it sounds like everybody is alright. I've heard of nose gear collapsing on landing, but not many on takeoff. Well..... a twin Cessna at Diamond point, but that runway was worse than a freshly plowed field coated in concrete.
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