2014 Pilot Discussion

[EastUS1]

$675 Liberty Neck Tie... For that kind of money one should expect the Army of Leo to post the documents that Wilder wrote...

 
I must differ Brother. Should anyone be so utterly brain-dead that they'd even possibly imagine such "magnificent" ties being at all worth $675, well sir....the phrase too-stupid-for-words forcibly comes to mind, and there's thusly no possible reason to further coddle such complete fools/"true believers" with anything more than said ties/pins/badge-backers/"heroic"-shirts/whatever. 😉
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZvT2r828QY

 

[snapthis]

I must differ Brother. Should anyone be so utterly brain-dead that they'd even possibly imagine such "magnifcent" ties being at all worth $675, well sir....the phrase too-stupid-for-words forcibly comes to mind, and there's thusly no possible reason to further coddle such complete fools/"true believers" with anything more than said ties/pins/badge-backers/T-shirts/whatever. 😉

Some are worth less, some more.......Leonidas ties are moderately priced. 😉

Salvatore Ferragamo Primavera Tie - $190

Kiton Green Cashmere-Silk Knit Tie - $580

Leonidas Liberty Tie-$675

Hofmann And Co AG 24-Karat Gold Necktie - $8,450

Satya Paul Design Studio Suashish Tie - $220,000
The most expensive necktie in the world is a product of the Satya Paul Design Studio and the Suashish Diamond Group, who teamed up to bedazzle a necktie with almost $220,000 worth of diamonds, along with 150 grams of gold. This is when the you can buy part of the title of this article really becomes hypothetical. Even if you had that much money to spend, would you want to spend it on a tie?

 

[EastUS1]

Some are worth less, some more.......Leonidas ties are moderately priced. 😉

 
No deadly offense meant, but I've long wondered as to exactly what particular fantasy it is that enables "you'se" to imagine yourself "worth" so much as even a dime? Buying badge-backers?...Cactus pins?...Ties?...The whole supposed "spartan", heroic "soldier" bit?...What? WTF have "you'se" EVER done?..Other than try to place a 3 month new hire ahead of people who've actually worked over 16 years?...? Honestly: How can anyone live with such utter BS as any excuse for a belief system?

 

[lynyrdskynyrd]

Res is correct.
 
"It's bear the load. Bear as a verb can mean "to hold up or support". Bare as a verb means "to open to view". This is distinct from the two words' noun meanings, which are an animal and nude, respectively."
 
Credit to Piedmont1984 on another board.

My favorite from 1984 on another board is the difference between I can see your nuts and I can see you're nuts. Always makes me lol.

 

[end_of_alpa]

Res is correct.
 
"It's bear the load. Bear as a verb can mean "to hold up or support". Bare as a verb means "to open to view". This is distinct from the two words' noun meanings, which are an animal and nude, respectively."
 
Credit to Piedmont1984 on another board.

Thank you for making MY point about Res. I am still right. BARE is the word for her.

 

[snapthis]

No deadly offense meant, but I've long wondered as to exactly what particular fantasy it is that enables "you'se" to imagine yourself "worth" so much as even a dime? Buying badge-backers?...Cactus pins?...Ties?...The whole supposed "spartan", heroic "soldier" bit?...What? WTF have "you'se" EVER done?..Other than try to place a 3 month new hire ahead of people who've actually worked over 16 years?...? Honestly: How can anyone live with such utter BS as any excuse for a belief system?

None taken...

The 3-month new hire did not have 17-year FO's waiting to upgrade in front of him, rather 5 to 6-years. If that 3-month new-hire was told he'd be behind a bunch of furloughs of an acquired airline, he might have chosen to be a new hire somewhere else.

Liberty Ties represent the unity which helped us frustrate the objectives of the tyranny of the misguided.View attachment 10091

 

[Ames]

 
"You'se" can't be serious, or are otherwise just intent on imagining/fantasizing yourself and your "righteous" cause as anything actually serious...Really? How truly amusing. There's nothing here that's at all worth "hating" anyone over. "You'se" can keep all the "heroic spartan soldier" fantasies to yourselves. This is merely a disagreement, and hardly any semblance of a "war". Wars are utterly horrible events in which people get unjustly, randomly, and brutally killed, and this nic nonsense is just a total joke, just one of those things that happens in social life. Should I meet Trader at  the workplace, he'd have no insult from me, and I'd expect him to be a usefull fellow on the flight deck, nor would I harbor any supposed "hate". We'd likely share jokes on politics, after a mutual "Ok..So we're both opinionated, antagonistic azzholes" handshake. "You'se" kids really need to just grow up and get over yourselves. The world just isn't Fantasyland.
 
Suggestion: Don't take yourself so seriously, nor expect anyone else to do so. 😉

No.  It's a war.  Declared by ruthless scumbags who don't honor their agreements and don't know the meaning of final and binding.  We on the west take ourselves very seriously, which is why the scumbag majority has not gotten all they think they deserve in this debacle.  Too bad we are bogged down in legal quicksand because if it came to true battle as you describe this much stronger and smarter group would have wiped the earth clean of you long ago.

 

[AAviator]

luvthe9,
You're up...
 
If it's gotta be DOH, why can the AA pilots keep the 777's and 767's but not the seniority numbers associated with those jobs we already have?
 
Can you explain how you "saved" my pension?
 
Can you shed more light on Project Zanzibar?  (I've found Jim's explanation over on Flyertalk)

 

[AAviator]

The APA sees east and west the same they want us both at the the bottom.

What is your source of this info?
 
With MB, if we can't agree, it goes to arbitration.  If USAPA had their way, what would the list look like?  DOH?  If the West doesn't agree should it go to arbitration??
 
whooooppsies…...

 

[AAviator]

 
Amen brother...

aglflyr,
Can you provide then benchmark, financial performance  hurdles you seem to believe exist in your explanation of why there's no agreed to seniority list at LCC?

 

[AAviator]

Of course it does, and the "neutral" company and the "predatory" APA will try to convince the judge that the Statute provisions are unavailable to USAPA for a multitude of reasons beyond that one.

Lawsuit first is a given.. It was already filed. Order of SLI and JCBA is TBD. Let's see what has more teeth. A statute or an MOU.

USAPA is in its death throws.  Get used to it.  It'll all be over and USAPA will be a bad memory.  
 
This is headed to arbitration and any belief otherwise is a pipe dream.

 

[AAviator]

aglflyr,
Can you provide then benchmark, financial performance  hurdles you seem to believe exist in your explanation of why there's no agreed to seniority list at LCC?

I see you're online now.
 
If you'd like me to stop and just cede the point that this is the internet and you can say anything you want in the hopes someone believes it, then, I'll be glad to stop.
 
Or, you can provide the document.

 

[algflyr]

I see you're online now.
 
If you'd like me to stop and just cede the point that this is the internet and you can say anything you want in the hopes someone believes it, then, I'll be glad to stop.
 
Or, you can provide the document.

 
I'm not exactly sure what you're asking. A transition agreement was created that produced a SLI under ALPA (the Nic) and it contained certain conditions that must have been met for the implementation of said seniority list. The conditions were never met. And now the document has been nullified, so those conditions can never be met. All we are left with are two separate pilot groups operating separately from each other on two different seniority lists.

 

[Black Swan]

USAPA is in its death throws.  Get used to it.  It'll all be over and USAPA will be a bad memory.  
 
This is headed to arbitration and any belief otherwise is a pipe dream.

Fantastic, heading to arbitration. Just remember that new hires are checking out as captains in their first year of employment. Just remember your airline is known as the catalyst for McCaskill Bond. Plus, you have already been noted by the NMB as up to your usual APA strong arm tactics.
And, USAPA will be there to represent until it is over. Personally, I am very confident the author and most authoritative person with regard to MB will be in the employ of USAPA during the process. That person being William Wilder. Check out his RLA Blog sometime. Very encompassing as well as interesting.Being in death throes? Hardly.

 

[luvthe9]

 It'll all be over and USAPA will be a bad memory.  
 
This is headed to arbitration and any belief otherwise is a pipe dream.

By bad memory you mean for the west, you will get screwed in arbitration and lose quite a few wide body jobs which could have been protected for years, oh we'll roll the dice and bring it on boy!!!!