2014 Pilot Discussion

[snapthis]

PROVE IT. Put up or shut up.

You need to get something through your pea sized brain. I have not, will not and will never answer to a scumbag like you.

If Claxon's statements were true about some sort of ID theft. The accused would not be a West rep for Ucrapa. That's because he would have been fired.

You're too stupid to figure that out.

 

[snapthis]

You will not decide anything.

Damn right.

 

[electricjet98]

OK. Exactly what point is it on the APA list that you personally imagine yourself worthy of being made artificially "senior" to, and on what possible basis? How about "you'se" snapthis, or Res judicata? This should be fun. 😉

The same approximate point as where the east pilots directly above and below me on the Nicolau Award are placed amongst the APA pilots. On the basis of two arbitrations by highly experienced and NEUTRAL arbitrators.

 

[electricjet98]

"To the victors goes the spoils." Too bad.

Jamie is obviously getting a bit frustrated that USAPA hasn't delivered...nor will it!

 

[Res Judicata]

The same approximate point as where the east pilots directly above and below me on the Nicolau Award are placed amongst the APA pilots. On the basis of two arbitrations by highly experienced and NEUTRAL arbitrators.

You're just confusing him. Let it go.

 

[EastUS1]

The same approximate point as where the east pilots directly above and below me on the Nicolau Award are placed amongst the APA pilots. On the basis of two arbitrations by highly experienced and NEUTRAL arbitrators.

 
That, in answer to: " OK. Exactly what point is it on the APA list that you personally imagine yourself worthy of being made artificially "senior" to, and on what possible basis? How about "you'se" snapthis, or Res judicata? This should be fun." Seriously?...ROTFLMAO....Good luck convincing your "friends" in the APA of any such amazingly high west, or USAirways in general, "worth". 🙂 "You'se" poor and blindly trusting kids, really and truly, have not even the slightest idea of how this nasty business actually works. No surprise, I suppose, given zero experience with mergers, other than a kindly and loving uncle nic to lean on for any possible, however purely fantasized reference. "You'se" just have no idea...Oh well. 😉

 

[EastUS1]

You're just confusing him. Let it go.

 
No worries for me son. I'm not the one who's the least bit "confused" here. 😉

 

[EastUS1]

You will not decide anything.

 
Umm...and "you'se" can even imagine/at all fantasize that you will? Thanks for the usual laughs. 🙂

 

[EastUS1]

No guarantees in life. Some have trouble grasping that concept.

 
Don't look at me there. Per "grasping that concept": I know the sometimes harsh nature of life fully, and I've never held any infantile need to pretend myself any supposed "spartan", or "soldier" in any imaginary "army" only existent inside Fantasyland, nor have I ever felt the need, as "you'se" have, to fantasize any personal "heroics" by purely imaginary association with the likes of Israel's forces, (care for your quotable material there?) and I've no fantasy that buying some $675 "Liberty" tie makes me at all even the least bit patriotic. Heck! I can't even imagine that wearing any "Integrity Matters" T-shirt would ever magically make me a paradigm of supposed integrity. 🙂
 
Most laughable here's the obvious thought that there's truly "No guarantees in life", yet you presume yourselves somehow exempted from that, merely via the whims of some previous arbitration that's failed to ever be anything you can actually enforce...and, of course, that the APA are truly your "friends"? Seriously? Wow! One just can't make this sort of stuff up. 😉

 

[Res Judicata]

That, in answer to: " OK. Exactly what point is it on the APA list that you personally imagine yourself worthy of being made artificially "senior" to, and on what possible basis? How about "you'se" snapthis, or Res judicata? This should be fun." Seriously?...ROTFLMAO....Good luck convincing your "friends" in the APA of any such amazingly high west, or USAirways in general, "worth". 🙂 "You'se" poor and blindly trusting kids, really and truly, have not even the slightest idea of how this nasty business actually works. No surprise, I suppose, given zero experience with mergers, other than a kindly and loving uncle nic to lean on for any possible, however purely fantasized reference. "You'se" just have no idea...Oh well. 😉

Sensing a budding Eastus bender.

There is no point imagining where an arbitration panel will put anyone specifically as it relates to the APA. I think E/W will go either Nic, or Nic adjusted for all the bad faith years of an obviously fake union. You should be well aware that every arbitration since the Nic, has followed primarily...the Nic. Ratios of slotting by relative seniority among category and class. But I'm sure you're right, your DOH, replete with multiple furloughs covering multiple years, over multiple occasions during multiple bankruptcies will be entirely forgotten about and you and that Scab Jamie Javourek will "win" the spoils.

HA!!

 

[EastUS1]

Sensing a budding Eastus bender.

There is no point imagining where an arbitration panel will put anyone specifically as it relates to the APA. I think E/W will go either Nic, or Nic adjusted for all the bad faith years of an obviously fake union. You should be well aware that every arbitration since the Nic, has followed primarily...the Nic. Ratios of slotting by relative seniority among category and class. But I'm sure you're right, your DOH, replete with multiple furloughs covering multiple years, over multiple occasions during multiple bankruptcies will be entirely forgotten about and you and that Scab Jamie Javourek will "win" the spoils.

HA!!

 
"I think E/W will go either Nic, or Nic adjusted for all the bad faith years of an obviously fake union." What supposed reasons would, even could the APA possibly have for indulging your fantasies there?
 
"HA!"...? As if a significant "statement" worthy of it's own whole "sentence" line. Typical....Just grow up someday, if/whenever at all ever possible, and strive mightilly to then learn how to actually think. There's no point wasting time on such as "you'se" self meanwhile, save for chuckles and amusement. 😉

 

[electricjet98]

"I think E/W will go either Nic, or Nic adjusted for all the bad faith years of an obviously fake union." What supposed reasons would, even could the APA possibly have for indulging your fantasies there?

Because it is the result of a "Final & Binding" arbitration process that both east & west agreed to with the benefit of thousands of pages of documents, many witness and hours of testimony and consideration by an experienced & neutral arbitrator assisted by two neutral parties appointed by east & west.

But I guess you know better?

Starting to feel your DOH entitlement slipping from your fingers, Michael?

 

[Res Judicata]

"I think E/W will go either Nic, or Nic adjusted for all the bad faith years of an obviously fake union." What supposed reasons would, even could the APA possibly have for indulging your fantasies there?
 
"HA!"...? Typical....Just grow up someday, if/when at all ever possible, and strive mightilly to then learn how to actually think. There's no point wasting time on such as "you'se" self meanwhile. 😉

Here's the point you refuse to acknowledge:

The APA is already acknowledging that THEY WONT GET A SAY IN ANY OF IT!!.

See, that's called integrity and respect for DFR...two utterly foreign concepts to your fake scab union that has failed every single day of its life. You JUST don't get it. Nor will you. A real union MUST provide a fair process for sli. The APA relinquishing control to arbitrators is an ACT OF FAIRNESS. Again, an act unrecognizable to scabs. Writing C&BL AFTER an already recognized fair process which entirely upends and disadvantages every single member of the minority group is so far outside of acceptable behavior, a Federal Judge was forced to strip the fake union of all power after the NMB rules to kill off your scab union.

You guys had your chance and utterly blew it. Your greed and hatred of your own failed careers got the better of you. USAPA hasn't been capable of one single rational action since the day it was born in the back of a rented van. Had you come up with a process that was somehow defensible maybe you'd have got your second bite at the apple. You didn't. You're incapable from learning from past mistakes too. Obviously.

 

[EastUS1]

Here's the point you refuse to acknowledge:

The APA is already acknowledging that THEY WONT GET A SAY IN ANY OF IT!!.
 

 
Well, perhaps I've entirely misread all of this then. It seems more to me the case that the APA's saying that none but themselves will have a say in "ANY OF IT!!", not that "The APA is already acknowledging that THEY WONT GET A SAY IN ANY OF IT!!"....and btw; "you'se" needn't follow two exclamations marks with a period, which should have been taught at all those "rather exclusive private educational institutions" "you'se" supposedly attended. 🙂

 

[EastUS1]

Starting to feel your DOH entitlement slipping from your fingers, Michael?

 
Nothing of this affects me personally. DOH's not any supposed "entitlement" in any case, in that it reflects years of actual work performed, a doubtlessly daunting thought to those, clearly like "you'se" self, who've performed precious few, yet wish to be somehow imagined as magically "worthy" nonetheless. What's your name? I can't recall ever being properly introduced, and only the most worthless and degenerate of even complete cowards ever seek to hide themselves....? 😉