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luvthe9 said:
Boy, you westies are going off the deep end, all of you have such a bad attitude. You all need to get a grip and understand it's over and has been for years, otherwise stagnate in the desert and watch the east grow!!
This next east bid is guaranteed to rock them when they see how deep the 767 captains go.
Ferguson and Leonidas have effectively neutered their future earnings.
 
nic4us said:
Hello east SCABs,
Word is uscaba is opposing the APA's single carrier petition.
Well, let me put it this way, another federal judge has called you SCAB to your face.
Your done, game, set, match!
The Nic will be integrated with the APA's list, and there is just nothing you can do about it.
Oh, and for NYC.....the guy who keeps calling Nicolau a senile old man, and the award an abomination and such.....FUCH YOU SCAB!
Nic4not is the surly west pilot hired in the last days of america west. His lottery ticket spontaneously combusted in the Silver courtroom.
He just realized it will be years before any west pilot has any chance at any wide body thanks to Koontz and Fergie. The junior Leonidas cadre has killed the w2 s of many a more senior west pilot.
 
Claxon said:
This next east bid is guaranteed to rock them when they see how deep the 767 captains go.
Ferguson and Leonidas have effectively neutered their future earnings.
Things are starting to change out in PHX, spoke to a fairly senior capt. In CLT, they are starting to realize what they are losing and have lost. The AFO club is on it's way out and losing support. They are going to left in the desert dust.
 
luvthe9 said:
Things are starting to change out in PHX, spoke to a fairly senior capt. In CLT, they are starting to realize what they are losing and have lost. The AFO club is on it's way out and losing support. They are going to left in the desert dust.
Hearing similar accounts. Leonidas is an under funded liability.
 
dca319 said:
Because it's moot to them. The combined list will be rationed and it doesn't matter who is in what spot on our list. And they'll use a list that has the least chance of exposing them to a lawsuit.
And It won't be the NIC! For Sure!
 
end_of_alpa said:
I only see the two page filing by APA. Where is the a Company filing?
Got PDF from buddy at APA. Here's page 1:

January 10, 2014 Filed Electronically at OLA-efile@nmb.gov
The Honorable Linda Puchala, Chairman The Honorable Harry Hoglander, Member The Honorable Nicholas Geale, Member National Mediation Board
1301 K Street, NW Washington, DC 20572-0001
Re: Notice of Merger Involving American Airlines Group Inc. (formerly known as AMR Corporation) and US Airways Group, Inc.
Dear Chairman Puchala and Members Hoglander and Geale:
This letter constitutes notice pursuant to the National Mediation Boards Merger Procedures and NMB Representation Manual Section 19.3 that on December 9, 2013, American Airlines Group Inc. (formerly known as AMR Corporation) and US Airways Group, Inc. implemented a merger agreement dated February 13, 2013, resulting in the formers acquisition of the latter, including its wholly-owned subsidiary US Airways, Inc. (US Airways). In light of the closing of this transaction, and the other developments described below, we are providing the NMB with information concerning the operational integration that has already occurred at the two mainline carriers i.e., US Airways and American Airlines, Inc. (American) as well as the steps that will soon be taken to complete the integration process.1
Common Ownership
As a result of implementing the merger agreement, American and US Airways Group, Inc. are now each wholly-owned subsidiaries of American Airlines Group Inc., which, as noted above, is the new name for AMR Corporation. US Airways (the mainline carrier) remains a wholly-owned subsidiary of US Airways Group, Inc. American and US Airways are now operating under the American Airlines name in various respects, and will be collectively referred to herein as the New American.
All of the outstanding stock of AMR Corporation has been converted into common stock in American Airlines Group Inc., and each outstanding share of common stock of US Airways Group, Inc. has been exchanged for one newly-issued share of American Airlines Group Inc. common stock. Beginning on December 9, 2013, common shares issued by American Airlines Group Inc. have been traded on the NASDAQ Global Select Market under the ticker symbol AAL and convertible preferred shares have been traded on the same market under the ticker symbol AALCP.2 On that date, Doug Parker, Chief Executive Officer of American Airlines
 
Claxon said:
Hearing similar accounts. Leonidas is an under funded liability.
. Marty must be laughing all the way to the bank, although I hear they still owe a few million
 
luvthe9 said:
. Marty must be laughing all the way to the bank, although I hear they still owe a few million
Szymanski is laughing harder.
 
Winglet said:
The AA seniority list was legally settled over 10 years ago. It's not even remotely close to the depth of division and hate at US Airways. We don't want to inherit the kind of blood feud that is rampant now at US Airways.
Well you should not but the problem is you have embraced a MNGMNT CULTURE that will milk this till the cows come home! My guess beyond your wildest realization, DUI DOUG style. Yours to figure out! Let history be your guide!
 
767one said:
Usapa will go away but I don't think it will happen just because you wish it so.
Gee, you think?

Writing is on the wall and it's obvious as to what the company and APA are doing to USAPA.
 
Claxon said:
Hearing similar accounts. Leonidas is an under funded liability.
The AOL founders had a good thing while it lasted. A limitless expense account and management fees supported by extremely passionate donors... Their goose is is no longer laying golden eggs.... but it is pumping out something every goose is known for. Donor passion is changing accordingly. :lol:
 
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