2014 Pilot Discussion

[Bill Brasky]

I think that that one footnote demonstrates a serious misunderstanding by the Judge, and the company is giving her a chance to correct the error.  I believe, like others here have said, that this one statement is what the westies are hanging their hat on, and the company wants the judge to delete it, probably as a means of expediting and finalizing an SLI process.  It may also be slowing down the process with APA, as they may be under the impression that they would get the right to impose their will once they become the CBA.
 
Basically, that one statement, if true, would make the M/B law worthless and unworkable.  I seriously doubt that that is what the lawmakers had in mind.
 
My prediction is that she deletes it, then the SLI process will continue rapidly toward the goal of merging the APA list with the USAPA list, without the Nic.

 

[dca319]

Who cares? It'll be years before we get to a joint certificate / joint bid.

That MOU had a ridiculously optimistic timeline - 3 arbitrators available on such short notice?

Fugitaboutit.

Years?  I don't think so.  We'll have it done by the end of summer 2015.

 

[dca319]

I'm no lawyer, but it looks like the company is getting confirmation that the APA, if approved as our new union, is going to run the SLI show..... and we haven't heard anything about a protocol agreement yet? Hmmmmmm, probably nothing, but it could be something.

Bean

I think the company wants that footnote removed so that USAPA has nothing to hang an appeal on.  They want it made clear that APA has the option to appoint a west contingent to the SLI.

 

[dca319]

 
I'm no lawyer, either, but it looks to me like the company is:
 
1. Trying to get Judge Silver to force the west class into their corner and STFU permanently,
2. Inoculate themselves from another wearying, senseless, loser lawsuit by that west class.

You obviously haven't read it if you came up with that.

 

[dca319]

 
 
The short answer, No.
 
I think the company is asking Judge Silver to completely prevent the West Class from having any chance whatsoever at affecting the SLI process in the MOU.   

What the hell are you reading?  Its exactly the OPPOSITE of that.

 

[dca319]

I guess DCA saw his shadow and ran back in his hole. Does that mean 6 more weeks of winter?

You miss me already TR?

 

[Phoenix]

What the hell are you reading?  Its exactly the OPPOSITE of that.

Sure, it's a trick. 😀

The company is asking that the prevailing defendant be bound....

No wonder Marty is still exploiting youse guys.

 

[Phoenix]

I think the company wants that footnote removed so that USAPA has nothing to hang an appeal on.  They want it made clear that APA has the option to appoint a west contingent to the SLI.

Prevailing defendants don't appeal.

I used to think Marty had to be smart to collect so many donations, but now I know he was just lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time, when a fortune dropped in his lap. 😀

 

[dca319]

Sure, it's a trick. 😀

The company is asking that the prevailing defendant be bound....

No wonder Marty is still exploiting youse guys.

No, you're just an idiot.  This is pretty back and white:
 

[SIZE=13pt]US Airways requests that the Court modify its January 10, 2014 [/SIZE]
 
[SIZE=13pt]Order (Doc. No. 298) to remove Footnote 15 so that the Order cannot be construed to [/SIZE]prohibit the Allied Pilots Association (“APA”) – after it has been certified as the single collective bargaining representative for all of the US Airways/American pilots – from creating and delegating authority to separate merger committees to represent the disparate seniority interests of the pre-merger US Airways and pre-merger American pilots. 

 

[dca319]

Prevailing defendants don't appeal.

I used to think Marty had to be smart to collect so many donations, but now I know he was just lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time, when a fortune dropped in his lap. 😀

Kind of like what Szymanski is doing with us.  But hey, any pilot group willing to give up quality of life and $200K voluntarily deserves what they've gotten all these years.  We in the east have paid for the stupidity of a few over and over.

 

[Pi brat]

You miss me already TR?

Sure, that's it. And you are?

 

[dca319]

Sure, that's it. And you are?

Your BFF.

 

[EastUS1]

Kind of like what Szymanski is doing with us.  But hey, any pilot group willing to give up quality of life and $200K voluntarily deserves what they've gotten all these years.  We in the east have paid for the stupidity of a few over and over.

 
One couldn't even make this stuff up: "us" morphs to "they've" and back to "We", and all within a mere three sentences. Can't "you'se" even keep your "east" persona straight for even that little time? 😉
 
"He'll likely resurface with some one-liner insults he fantasizes seem "tough" in time. Then, amazingly enough, attempt to continue with the "east" pilot persona, in which so much pathetic effort's already been wasted."
 
"dca" To Pi: "You miss me already TR?"
 
"dca" To Phoenix: "No, you're just an idiot."
 
"dca" to Pi again: "Your BFF."
 
"...what they've gotten all these years.  We in the east.." This is textbook behavior, and just plain sad to see from anyone.

 

[dca319]

 
One couldn't even make this stuff up: "us" morphs to "they've" and back to "We", and all within a mere three sentences. Can't "you'se" even keep your "east" persona straight for even that little time? 😉

Again, how do you recover from your benders so quickly?  

 

[Freighterguynow]

Kind of like what Szymanski is doing with us.  But hey, any pilot group willing to give up quality of life and $200K voluntarily deserves what they've gotten all these years.  We in the east have paid for the stupidity of a few over and over.

Lots of movement direct to the left seat of the 767 from various right seats.

Making up for it every day we maintain separate ops.