2014 Pilot Discussion

[dca319]

JJ- they know the APA doesn't want to go there. Let's hope the APA goes there. I want to see what happens when even you get a shot at their big stuff. That is after the east new hires go first with that fantastic career expectation and position.

I'm going to have to meet jj one day.
 
APA is going there.  Call your reps and ask.  This is going to arbitration.  Only and idiot like you would hope for that.  You're going to wish the Nic was the list when this three way SLI is complete.

 

[dca319]

Yes, DOH is definitely off the table.
 
It is however also important for every pilot to pay particular attention to the most recent major arbitration between United and Continental pilots (UAL/CAL) . In doing so, we can get some insight into the minds of the arbitrators and their current views in regards to what they consider fair and equitable. In order to succeed, we need to be able to pursue a proposal that is fair and equitable and that will be accepted by the arbitrators.

 

[nevergiveup]

Interesting email sent out by our PHL reps.  Those of you saying that this will never see arbitration are the idiots I said you were.  Even our elected morons can see where this is going.  DOH has been dead and arbitration for the SLI.  
 
While there is no doubt that both USAPA and the APA would both like to believe we can settle it without arbitration, and this would clearly be the preferred choice; history does not give credence to this solution. As such, we must and are prepared for this likely eventuality.
 
Subtle way of saying no DOH on the table:
 
This team is absolutely committed to a fair and equitable outcome for all pilots; East, West, and APA.They also understand that recent history has shown that when a pilot group attempts a land grab, they get hammered, as the arbitration process has evolved into a system where this behavior is no longer accepted nor tolerated.

No Nic on the table, even better!

 

[nevergiveup]

Saw Gary and the APA chairman in Denny's. They got up and shook hands before they left. Hmmmm

 

[dca319]

No Nic on the table, even better!

May not be the Nic, but it will be Nic-like.  And I think Nic-like will be worse than Nic.

 

[dca319]

Saw Gary and the APA chairman in Denny's. They got up and shook hands before they left. Hmmmm

No pic?  Didn't happen.

 

[Claxon]

I'm going to have to meet jj one day.
 
APA is going there.  Call your reps and ask.  This is going to arbitration.  Only and idiot like you would hope for that.  You're going to wish the Nic was the list when this three way SLI is complete.

Good. The APA will rue the day they get McCaskill Bond used. The east pilots dodged a poor arbitration outcome. This one? The APA is going into unknown territory.
There will be no re do.

 

[Claxon]

No pic?  Didn't happen.

just like your Move2clt

 

[luvthe9]

May not be the Nic, but it will be Nic-like.  And I think Nic-like will be worse than Nic.

Are you based in DCA right now?

 

[luvthe9]

Are you based in DCA right now?

are you?

 

[Res Judicata]

The senators from Missouri do not share your charitable views of your, problems. Problems your employer willingly purchased. Willingly. And they should have been cognizant of the perils wrapped in those purchases. Exactly like Bank of America willingly purchasing Countrywide Mortgage. And all those bad loans.
The USAirways pilots are not in those same positions as TWA and Reno. And contrary to your beliefs, USAPA will legally represent them as their certified and elected position all the way through. Your attempt to strong arm them and fold them into APA prior does not stop them from availing provisions legally provided as a result of your labor groups trampling those of TWA- especially the flt attendants. Those provisions are clearly delineated in a bill, McCaskill-Bond. Would you like a link to it?I think you are likely aware of it.
Your childish comments and references to feminine issues and pharmacological remedy for menstrual flows, their associated symptoms, merely show your ignorance, not mine.
I highly suggest you read the 9th Court of Appeals decision with regard to Addington 1 and their clear discussion of the case, AND their DECISION before you go any farther.
Your labor association better get familiar with that decision, and their CLEAR and CONCISE discourse of USAPAs ZERO obligation to Nicolau,or you will merely be plowing the same rocky legal ground the west has since 2007. So far, the APA has got it entirely incorrect, and one more suggestion: read about BILL WILDER, and the RLA Blog before you call me an idiot ever again. That is who you are up against. He will be there every step of the way. The Best. Ask Mart Harper.

What's "USAPA"?

 

[luvthe9]

What's "USAPA"?

Dca319 running scared.
He knows I am about to out him

 

[dca319]

are you?

You haven't been paying attention, have you.  If you'd put that wing down for a second you'd have known that I was born and raised in DCA and not based there - hence the screen name.
 
I don't expect much from you so I fully realize that I'll have to explain this to you again in a month.

 

[dca319]

are you?

How much longer do you think before you have your first heart attack and they race you to Chandler?  Or have you had one already?

 

[luvthe9]

You haven't been paying attention, have you.  If you'd put that wing down for a second you'd have known that I was born and raised in DCA and not based there - hence the screen name.
 
I don't expect much from you so I fully realize that I'll have to explain this to you again in a month.

What is your base?