2014 Pilot Discussion

[dariencc]

Notice the conspicuous absence? RiesJudicata is stroking out, again.

It's worse than you think. Cap'n Aux has been getting bombarded with weird emails from Res. Doyal badly wants to be written into the sequel to Code Name Dodger. He wants it to be called Code Name Res Judaica. Res will be a handsome, macho CIA applicant who flags the lie detector test. He goes on a Rambo-like rampage and annihilates the agency's Langley headquarters. Truth, Justice and The American Way are restored. In the closing scene, Doyal is offered the job of CIA Director by President Douglas Parker (Charlie Sheen) but turns it down to become a 777 Captain in Miami, thanks to a resurrected Nic list. He flies off to Bogata, where he bangs his Columbian mistress, Sofia Vergara. Roll credits.

 

[nycbusdriver]

I told you 85ER. You certainly made a harsh judgement.
Insults about menstrual issues, and telling me to listen up.
Nobody has an issue with you guys as long as you follow the rules.
USAPA is spooled up on this issue, and has hamstrung the west for years, forever. You guys will be the next to go to the 9th if you wish. Judge Silver is certainly headed that way. That entire state is a legal cesspool. Neil Wake embarassed himself, now that idiot governor is about to lose her state a whole lot of business. Including American. Judge Silver is about to have her posterior handed to her. Her idiot dicta was a total embarrassment. And the Leonidas idiots fell for it as law, as did your group. So far, you guys are not impressive, not one bit.
Billy Wilder wrote your McCaskill story. He knows it cold. The APA honestly embarassed itself taking their lines from Parker and Siegal. Judge Silver foolishly listened to them.
I warned you Wilder was coming. You guys are headed to arbitration it seems. Bobby Crandall warned you. This one is going to hurt you guys forever. You have no idea where you are headed now.
You stupidly ignored the east attrition, now the west 84 hires are going in your 777 orders. Left seat. Make it happen APA. Don't blame Crandall.

 
Never expected a 777 captain seat from this merger, and was perfectly happy to fly out my last years on the 330.
 
But, if the APA want to offer one to me by being stupid enough to arbitrate, then bring it on!  I may be old, but I am not afraid of another ground school and type rating.  Besides, I can, with some effort, probably leave the 330 seat stained enough for Prechil to enjoy the sniffing she gets to do.

 

[PullUp]

It's worse than you think. Cap'n Aux has been getting bombarded with weird emails from Res. Doyal badly wants to be written into the sequel to Code Name Dodger. He wants it to be called Code Name Res Judaica. Res will be a handsome, macho CIA applicant who flags the lie detector test. He goes on a Rambo-like rampage and annihilates the agency's Langley headquarters. Truth, Justice and The American Way are restored. In the closing scene, Doyal is offered the job of CIA Director by President Douglas Parker (Charlie Sheen) but turns it down to become a 777 Captain in Miami, thanks to a resurrected Nic list. He flies off to Bogata, where he bangs his Columbian mistress, Sofia Vergara. Roll credits.

None of that can happen without funding for the movie. Better get that DL done so your pay don't get docked......

 

[nycbusdriver]

Looks like the Westoffs just got another stun grenade dropped on them by Billy Wilder. 

 
Can you elaborate, or post a link?
 
Nothing from USAPA Legal or Comm to us, the unwashed masses.

 

[luvthe9]

West meltdown coming.

 

[A320 Driver]

West meltdown coming.

Not the answer we were looking for...

 

[Claxon]

Can you elaborate, or post a link?
 
Nothing from USAPA Legal or Comm to us, the unwashed masses.

Absolutely. Coming shortly or you can go to Leonidas LLC
Library on left. Top box dfr2
On the page full of filings it is Doc60 on Feb27

 

[Claxon]

Judge Silver and her dicta being slammed by Wilder. Not just slammed, going to be severely dealt with as they should. Legally.
The APA filings regarding this are going into the trash soon.
Makes you wonder about the APA legal advisors taking the Silver musings and running with them like the company and west.
They are obviously not spooled up as the east has been. The APA seems clueless about what the 9th has already written and RULED on the Nicolau. Their loss.

 

[Claxon]

Look for the apa pilots to blink in the very near future, or they can put their future in the hands of an arbitration panel that produces an award that becomes law.  This is not an in house union dispute. 
 
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_301_USAPA_Resp_to_Rule_60.pdf
 
 
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_302-1_Plaintiffs_Exhibits.pdf

 

[autofixer]

Look for the apa pilots to blink in the very near future, or they can put their future in the hands of an arbitration panel that produces an award that becomes law.  This is not an in house union dispute. 
 
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_301_USAPA_Resp_to_Rule_60.pdf
 
 
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_302-1_Plaintiffs_Exhibits.pdf

I hope they "roll the dice", I might want to move to Miami some day.

 

[Phoenix]

 
Can you elaborate, or post a link?
 
Nothing from USAPA Legal or Comm to us, the unwashed masses.

 
Its in USAPA's Legal Library, Feb 24th (LeoSpanker has the wrong date and posted it as 27 Feb)
 
Doc 301 in the Addington II
 
Basically the Company's Motion to change Judge Silver's order from the trial includes a company attempt to add new evidence and arguments that were outside of Judge Silver's scope of the trial.  Additionally USAPA now takes the opportunity in this reply to add a motion to strike additional sentences in Jude Silver's dicta that are extraneous to the issue that was before her.  Since we are correcting things let's correct a few more mistakes you made, Judge.
 
Quite simply her musing about what the MOU and MB mean for the future are completely irrelevant, inappropriate, and intrusive since the trial was not about any questions of the future.   (USAPA said it a little more kindly).
 
Ironically in the West's reply to the Company motion, they also attempted to enter in additional evidence (citing USAPA's statements that occurred after the trial) and is attempting to use these new statements as evidence to support Judge Silver to go even further in amending her order, in further aid to the Plaintiff.... more attempts to litigate questions that were not before her at trial with evidence that did not even yet exist when the trial was over.  
 
As Claxon has already eluded to, the 9th ruled on this, Judge Silver never had a ripe case to begin with, and has done nothing but prolong a negotiated resolution and employed thousands of people off the backs of pilots via dues and donations, not to even mention tax payers for useless court proceeding.     

 

[Black Swan]

Look for the apa pilots to blink in the very near future, or they can put their future in the hands of an arbitration panel that produces an award that becomes law.  This is not an in house union dispute. 
 
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_301_USAPA_Resp_to_Rule_60.pdf
 
 
http://leonidas.cactuspilots.us/West_Pilot_DFR_DJ/Doc_302-1_Plaintiffs_Exhibits.pdf

I honestly do not understand why the APA is going down the litigation path with this. There is so much attrition coming up. All they have to do is fence the East off for 5 yrs and they have it all.

 

[Phoenix]

I honestly do not understand why the APA is going down the litigation path with this. There is so much attrition coming up. All they have to do is fence the East off for 5 yrs and they have it all.

 
 
Maybe they believe they can actually do better in MB arbitration with three groups.  The APA would have the West helping them argue against the East, and they would have the East helping them to argue agains the West.... or maybe this little shared helps them now in their negotiating with USAPA, in order to achieve a better list to be agreed to moments before going into arbitration. 

 

[PullUp]

 
 
Maybe they believe they can actually do better in MB arbitration with three groups.  The APA would have the West helping them argue against the East, and they would have the East helping them to argue agains the West.... or maybe this little shared helps them now in their negotiating with USAPA, in order to achieve a better list to be agreed to moments before going into arbitration. 

I believe it's a head-fake, too. The AA guys are smart enough to know that arbitration is not the way to go.

 

[Phoenix]

I believe it's a head-fake, too. The AA guys are smart enough to know that arbitration is not the way to go.

 
 
I would agree that the APA pilots as a whole would not want to risk arbitration, but sadly my opinion of "leaders" (who have the power to make that decision) is not as optimistic.  It often seems "leaders" place preeminence on the preservation of their own political career.  IMHO, tossing the responsibility to arbitrators may be more expedient for "leaders" (provided they put on a really good show as valiant fighters).