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EastUS1 said:
Nonsense sir! $675's the price and "Integrity Matters", after all. 😉
Rez J can buy a $675 Liberty Neck Tie, but I am not sure he can read any of the correspondence with the NBM, or the lawsuit, unless he is a USAPA MIGS.

For $675 I would have thought Marrtay, Ferrgie, Kowntz LLC would publish relevant NMB docs.
 
Phoenix said:
Rez J can buy a $675 Liberty Neck Tie, but I am not sure he can read any of the correspondence with the NBM, or the lawsuit, unless he is a USAPA MIGS.

For $675 I would have thought Marrtay, Ferrgie, Kowntz LLC would publish relevant NMB docs.
 
Now I know you're just joshin'.  I mean; why would their mighty "army" ever put out anything that might possibly impede the flow of further cash? Not that any is at all needed, no doubt, since those ties must necessarily be bought up in batch lots before they're even produced, I should think. 😉
 
end_of_alpa said:
The APA is trying to supercede the MOU with becoming the single agent for the pilots and hijacking M-B.  If you read the USAPA filings in the DC circuit and the latest letter to the NMB from Wilder you'll see that the APA has no legal ground to stand on.  More to come.
"No legal ground"? HHHHAAAA!!!!!

I'd say a Federal Judge clarifying MB for you is legal ground. Why not just appeal your big "win"?

USCABA is, as always, alone and without friends. The NMB, with support from virtually everyone but you idiots, is going to be blown off the map. Doug was "neutral" when it put over a billion of YOUR dollars in his pocket....he doesn't need you emotional fking idiots anymore. You've been used like a desperate fat whore and thrown out of the still moving car....sans payment. HA!!!

Loving the implosion🙂
 
Res Judicata said:
I'd say a Federal Judge clarifying MB for you is legal ground.
 
Where do "you'se" imagine that's yet happened?
 
Per "HHHHAAAA!!!!!"  Whew! Just a suggestion: Try not to burst too many more blood vessels as this all plays out. 😉
 
end_of_alpa said:
At least I have a mind you worthless POS!  Oh, I'm very glad you're in the third that's getting it's scab but kicked....SCAB!  It's too much to bare (correct spelling you POS)  for you for sure.  New Captains are taking your JOBS you worthless low life POS SCAB!  It's business as usual for ALL YOU WESTICLES.  GFYS.
I'm tired of educating mustachioed douch bag scabs JJ.

Look up "bear" then look up "Bare"
Hint: bear is not just an animal...retard.

No wonder you illiterate scabs have wasted your entire working lives at US Air. You're too mf ing stupid to know any better. HA!
 
EastUS1 said:
Where do "you'se" imagine that's yet happened?
 
Per "HHHHAAAA!!!!!"  Whew! Just a suggestion: Try not to burst too many more blood vessels as this all plays out. 😉
He can't even read the lawsuit about MB, just the premature and unrelated musings of a wayward and out of bounds attempt to harm a plaintiff that prevailed. Silver will wish she never grabbed the tar baby that Wake threw her way when he finally broke free.
 
Res Judicata said:
No wonder you illiterate scabs have wasted your entire working lives at US Air. You're too mf ing stupid to know any better. HA!
 
"A touch! I do confess it!" Sigh! Be gentle with us. Few mere mortals (outside of various ghettoes anyway) have ever been blessed with "you'se" educated eloquence. 🙂
 
P.S. I'm honestly curious: What creatures do "you'se" routinely commune with, that must so very freely, permit your obvious induglence in even any fantasy of supposed intelligence?....Sea sponges?, Starfish?...."spartans"?... or what? 😉
 
Originally Posted by Psiload

Mark Doyal's story is unlikely. He claims:

"The polygraph exam was next, August 7, 1996, in San Antonio, Texas. I knew I had nothing to worry about, since I had never violated the FBI's drug policy and I had not lied on my application. The agent administering the polygraph noted during the pre-polygraph interview that I had attended a university that he believed was a 'party school' and that I needed to tell him what drugs I used when I went there. I stated that I had taken none, that I didn't live on campus, I lived in another city, and that I was an older student and wasn't influenced to do such things. He repeated that that couldn't be the case and told me again to tell him what illegal drugs I had done. I countered again that that just wasn't the case and that I was telling the truth. This went back and forth for about 10 minutes and he seemed to be getting upset that I wouldn't admit to taking drugs. Finally he stated that if I was lying he was about to find out. I was upset at the unbelievable accusations he was making. Up until that point I had been treated with the utmost professionalism by the FBI staff, now I was being treated like an accused criminal. After the polygraph was over, he told me I had failed. I almost passed out in disbelief.

"I wrote several letters to FBI Director Freeh, and in October of 1996 I was polygraphed again, by another agent with the first agent who polygraphed me present. The results were the same, he told me I had failed. I just could not believe it. I had not lied on the polygraph. Even the first agent that had polygraphed me told me as I was leaving that he now believed me, that I was telling the truth. I wrote the Director several more times to no avail, my application was terminated in November of that year. My dreams were shattered."

The behavior he attributes to the first polygrapher would have been unprofessional in the extreme. I can understand why that polygrapher might have thrown out the "party school" comment, but it would have made little sense for him to insist that Doyal must have used drugs there. Obviously, even at a "party school", many students would not have been drug users. So, I doubt if the polygrapher would have behaved in such an illogical manner. However, if he did and Doyal wrote even one letter to FBI Director Freeh about this, it's likely that Freeh would have launched an investigation of the polygrapher. At an absolute minimum, if Freeh thought that Doyal deserved another polygraph, why would Freeh have permitted the original polygrapher to be present for the second polygraph? And if was there and told Doyal he now believed Doyal, why did Doyal fail the second exam?

So, I suspect that there is far more to the story than Doyal is admitting. However, in the unlikely event that his story is accurate, it would indicate a highly flawed FBI process, as opposed to the polygraph itself being flawed.
 
luvthe9 said:
"My dreams were shattered."
 
 
I say we just offer the poor kid a nurturing, group hug. 😉 True confessions time: I've actually honest sympathy for that person, but feel no need to tolerate his rancid BS on any adversarial level, especially when he could properly seek out professional help for his issues.
 
Res Judicata said:
I'm tired of educating mustachioed douch bag scabs JJ.
Look up "bear" then look up "Bare"
Hint: bear is not just an animal...retard.
No wonder you illiterate scabs have wasted your entire working lives at US Air. You're too mf ing stupid to know any better. HA!
Poor little AFO Res is having a tantrum today, yes I guess we were not good enough for AWA, no DUI's of criminal record. Everyone's first choice was to work for AWA, right.
 
EastUS1 said:
I say we just offer the poor kid a nurturing, group hug. 😉 True confessions time: I've actually honest sympathy for that person, but feel no need to tolerate his rancid BS on any adversarial level, especially when he could properly seek out professional help for his issues.
I say we call the Dr. Phil show for him.
 
luvthe9 said:
I say we call the Dr. Phil show for him.
 
Arrrgh! Don't even get me started on "Dr." Phil, since many in the psychology field, at any level, know him for what he is = a wholesale charlatan/con artist, right up there with hucksters who claim conversations with audience members' dead loved ones on shows....Umm....Perhaps you've a point here though, since "counsel" from such would likely be well-suited to self-styled "spartans", but that's just being cruel on my part. "Dr" Phil can't even practice in his earlier State of Texas, due to highly "inappropriate relations" with a teenaged patient, just for starters. Words just fail me there, although utter disgust and at the very least, tar and feathers come to mind. He was elevated to "celebrity" status only through Oprah, who's people had hired him as her mouthpieces' assistant for jury selection/manipulation, and she apparently, thought he was "cute".
 
luvthe9 said:
So, I suspect that there is far more to the story than Doyal is admitting. However, in the unlikely event that his story is accurate, it would indicate a highly flawed FBI process, as opposed to the polygraph itself being flawed.
 
He never flunked any polygraph.  He flunked the psychological evaluation he was undergoing while taking the polygraph, then confirmed their suspicions about his mental conditions with the letters, the whining, and the reprise.
 
The actual polygraph had nothing at all to do with it.  They saw someone, who by his demeanor, they felt should NEVER be in law enforcement, let alone a part of the elite FBI.  
 
Reading all his vitriolic, shrill, nonsensical posts, it appears those FBI evaluators were spot on.
 
nycbusdriver said:
He never flunked any polygraph.  He flunked the psychological evaluation he was undergoing while taking the polygraph, then confirmed their suspicions about his mental conditions with the letters, the whining, and the reprise.
 
The actual polygraph had nothing at all to do with it.  They saw someone, who by his demeanor, they felt should NEVER be in law enforcement, let alone a part of the elite FBI.  
 
Reading all his vitriolic, shrill, nonsensical posts, it appears those FBI evaluators were spot on.
Well at least he's not an FFDO!!!!!! ( I hope ).
 
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