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767one said:
Years ago in Siberacuse the place to go to was the Dinosaur Bar.....it's probably closed now or serving sushi or health food or some sort of "fusion food". Probably none of  that contains the basic food groups like salt, sugar, cholesterol, alcohol, caffeine and red dye#3 and my all time favorite MSG! What is this world coming to?
 
Bon Apetite!
 
Bob
. Still there, great place a must if your in SYR, also 5 or 6 new locations.

Built in the early 1920s, 246 W. Willow St. was the home to various barrooms, including the N&H Tavern for more than 50 years. Dinosaur opened it doors in 1988 and the full bar opened in 1991. We have changed the configuration of the restaurant a few times over the years, including adding two private party rooms upstairs in an area that was formerly Andys Cycle Shop. http://www.dinosaurbarbque.com/locations/
 
Freighterguynow said:
Try to be thankful for the East being bled to subsidise your welfare employment will ya ?
They know they were saved by the east, can we have our flying back now?
 
luvthe9 said:
I have no problem with APA rolling the dice in arbitration. The risk lies with them as It did with the west at Wye River.
I am all in for arbitration also. What does 3/4 of the East list have to really lose in the last 5-7 yrs? You might get zero fences on the American heavies. Some arbitrator may look at the age issue and open it all up. Up to the AA guys. I saw the Crandall video, but if they want to go to MB and the protocol in it, let's go.
 
Black Swan said:
I am all in for arbitration also. What does 3/4 of the East list have to really lose in the last 5-7 yrs? You might get zero fences on the American heavies. Some arbitrator may look at the age issue and open it all up. Up to the AA guys. I saw the Crandall video, but if they want to go to MB and the protocol in it, let's go.
A lot of us are absolutely astonished how clueless the APA seems to be, I realize they have never really merged with anyone, I don't call Reno, Air Cal or TWA a "merge". If I were Wilson I would want to secure a nice fence and protect my pilots and wide body flying. He is taking quite a risk. I agree with Swan.
 
Black Swan said:
It is going strong. Featured on Food Network. Dinosaur BBQ. Very good. You just have to deal with constant lake effect snow all day. The West guys are going to love BUF, SYR, ALB in winter. Oh, forgot ROC.
Black Swan,
 
Living in western Md. this winter has been much like upper New York state except not as many days below zero. I checked the tree line behind our house this morning and we still have a little snow left there. I think since before Thanksgiving there has only been about 7 days where I coudn't see snow somewhere on the property. I would say I'm ready for spring except I think we are also in for a lot of severe weather. This winter has been like the jelly of the month club.......it's the gift that keeps on giving!
 
All the best,
 
Bob
 
snapthis said:
Punishment? This coming from someone who shot himself in the foot. :lol:

Yousaps recently put out an update concerning Jumpseat denials. Most Westies are in agreement that simply denying a Jumpseat because he's an Eastie is wrong. The troublemakers are well known, so if you bounce into PIzzaTheHut, let him know he's on the naughty list.

The intent behind this is to emphasize that arbitrary denials are wrong. Do not deny a pilot because he is a member of a specific group. Please always keep in mind that if the pilot requesting is a jerk, well then deny that pilot. The founding fathers of usapa and some of the elected officials fit that description ( as well as a few others). A couple handfuls out of 3,500 pilots.

Westies have a little wake-up call for some in light of the hostile work environment created by USAPs...Safety first!

Some recent comments concerning the update:

"Yes it does suffice to deny a jumpseater in the interest of safety. If Cleary, Bradford or any other choice USAPA pilot were in the jumpseat, it would be either he or I who gets off the airplane (if he has to sit in jumpseat). If things were bad enough, a USAPA pilot of such staunch USAPA background could create, rather than trap more errors in the cockpit, even if he kept quiet. "


"Just had PTH on the seat from CLT to PHX. Tried to think of anything to keep that dude off the flight deck."

"We lit into that Fat B@S%^& like a mouse takes to cheese. We all know he is a lying four flushin sack so have some fun with it."

"PTH is the equivalent of Anderson on any flight deck. We are taught to build barriers (or is it beariers?) to stay out of the yellow. Prior to pushback, I've got an easy solution for that barrier. PTH can sit in the back or take a different flight home. And that rule stands for the next 12 years and 2 days of my career here."

"I had to do exactly that with the hut."

"It's a short list of names from the USAPA list. PTH is on it. There would have been nothing to talk about. Sometimes, #### happens when you commute to/from work."
 
Incredible!...You're actually somehow proud of posting rantings from such obviously immature people...? Wow! That speaks volumes for yourself as well. A person either has professional principles or they don't...period. I'll have to stick with never refusing a fully civil jump seat to any fellow pilot legally qualified for the hospitality, and some of "you'se", plainly and truly, need to GROW UP!
 
EastUS1 said:
Incredible!...You're actually somehow proud of posting rantings from such obviously immature people...? Wow! That speaks volumes for yourself as well. A person either has professional principles or they don't...period. I'll have to stick with never refusing a fully civil jump seat to any fellow pilot legally qualified for the hospitality, and some of "you'se", plainly and truly, need to GROW UP!
The west pilots have denied hundreds of jumpseats. Spinthis is attempting to act as if this was not a frequently used "tool"
west pilots took jumpseat denials to a new level in the industry.
 
snapthis said:
Punishment? This coming from someone who shot himself in the foot. :lol:
Yousaps recently put out an update concerning Jumpseat denials. Most Westies are in agreement that simply denying a Jumpseat because he's an Eastie is wrong. The troublemakers are well known, so if you bounce into PIzzaTheHut, let him know he's on the naughty list.The intent behind this is to emphasize that arbitrary denials are wrong. Do not deny a pilot because he is a member of a specific group. Please always keep in mind that if the pilot requesting is a jerk, well then deny that pilot. The founding fathers of usapa and some of the elected officials fit that description ( as well as a few others). A couple handfuls out of 3,500 pilots.
Westies have a little wake-up call for some in light of the hostile work environment created by USAPs...Safety first!
Some recent comments concerning the update:
"Yes it does suffice to deny a jumpseater in the interest of safety. If Cleary, Bradford or any other choice USAPA pilot were in the jumpseat, it would be either he or I who gets off the airplane (if he has to sit in jumpseat). If things were bad enough, a USAPA pilot of such staunch USAPA background could create, rather than trap more errors in the cockpit, even if he kept quiet. "
"Just had PTH on the seat from CLT to PHX. Tried to think of anything to keep that dude off the flight deck."
"We lit into that Fat B@S%^& like a mouse takes to cheese. We all know he is a lying four flushin sack so have some fun with it."
"PTH is the equivalent of Anderson on any flight deck. We are taught to build barriers (or is it beariers?) to stay out of the yellow. Prior to pushback, I've got an easy solution for that barrier. PTH can sit in the back or take a different flight home. And that rule stands for the next 12 years and 2 days of my career here."
"I had to do exactly that with the hut."
"It's a short list of names from the USAPA list. PTH is on it. There would have been nothing to talk about. Sometimes, #### happens when you commute to/from work."
Spinthis is very ANGERy. His multiple personalities all leap at the opportunity to spring forth with stories. His Twitter is extremely telling.
 
snapthis said:
Punishment? This coming from someone who shot himself in the foot. :lol:
Yousaps recently put out an update concerning Jumpseat denials. Most Westies are in agreement that simply denying a Jumpseat because he's an Eastie is wrong. The troublemakers are well known, so if you bounce into PIzzaTheHut, let him know he's on the naughty list.The intent behind this is to emphasize that arbitrary denials are wrong. Do not deny a pilot because he is a member of a specific group. Please always keep in mind that if the pilot requesting is a jerk, well then deny that pilot. The founding fathers of usapa and some of the elected officials fit that description ( as well as a few others). A couple handfuls out of 3,500 pilots.
Westies have a little wake-up call for some in light of the hostile work environment created by USAPs...Safety first!
Some recent comments concerning the update:
"Yes it does suffice to deny a jumpseater in the interest of safety. If Cleary, Bradford or any other choice USAPA pilot were in the jumpseat, it would be either he or I who gets off the airplane (if he has to sit in jumpseat). If things were bad enough, a USAPA pilot of such staunch USAPA background could create, rather than trap more errors in the cockpit, even if he kept quiet. "
"Just had PTH on the seat from CLT to PHX. Tried to think of anything to keep that dude off the flight deck."
"We lit into that Fat B@S%^& like a mouse takes to cheese. We all know he is a lying four flushin sack so have some fun with it."
"PTH is the equivalent of Anderson on any flight deck. We are taught to build barriers (or is it beariers?) to stay out of the yellow. Prior to pushback, I've got an easy solution for that barrier. PTH can sit in the back or take a different flight home. And that rule stands for the next 12 years and 2 days of my career here."
"I had to do exactly that with the hut."
"It's a short list of names from the USAPA list. PTH is on it. There would have been nothing to talk about. Sometimes, #### happens when you commute to/from work."
Snappy, don't you understand that you just make your west brothers look stupid when you post theses things? They talk about safety, then brag about tearing into CB. Is that safe while operating the aircraft?

Some people just need to grow up.
 
Pi brat said:
Snappy, don't you understand that you just make your west brothers look stupid when you post theses things? They talk about safety, then brag about tearing into CB. Is that safe while operating the aircraft?
Some people just need to grow up.
The "normal" west pilots are fed up with AOL and the little AFO club, they have very little support these days. Ferguson and Koontz have damaged the careers of a lot of west pilots, so many could have upgraded or found themselves in wide body slots, they made a bad choice but it can still be corrected if they want. Some of the westies I have spoken to realize the APA is not their friend.
 
Pi brat said:
Snappy, don't you understand that you just make your west brothers look stupid when you post theses things? They talk about safety, then brag about tearing into CB. Is that safe while operating the aircraft?

Some people just need to grow up.
 
No kidding, and if any po' widdle babies' attention to safety could be so easily derailed by merely not having fond feelings for another in the flight deck, then they've no proper business being in control of any aircraft, and one must honestly wonder what their reactions might be to any truly demanding circumstances aloft, since just emotional nonsense can apparently rule them.
 
"If things were bad enough, a USAPA pilot of such staunch USAPA background could create, rather than trap more errors in the cockpit, even if he kept quiet. " Wow!..."even if he kept quiet"; you somehow can't safely do your job?

"We lit into that Fat B@S%^& like a mouse takes to cheese......" Very professional indeed. At what stage of the flight did this happen?
 
"PTH is the equivalent of Anderson on any flight deck. We are taught to build barriers (or is it beariers?) to stay out of the yellow. Prior to pushback, I've got an easy solution for that barrier. PTH can sit in the back or take a different flight home. ....."....?  Words can't even begin to address these levels of wholesale infancy.
 
Claxon said:
The west pilots have denied hundreds of jumpseats. Spinthis is attempting to act as if this was not a frequently used "tool"
west pilots took jumpseat denials to a new level in the industry.
 
The company has a new tool in it's collection for dealing with captains who deny jumpseat for stupid reasons, like "...that eastie's presence pisses me off so much, I can't function safely in my job...."
 
It's called the Company Medical Department in Ft. Worth, where the docs can call in a pilot at any time to determine his/her suitabliity to do the job.  Maybe they will find there is no problem, but I bet anyone "called in" to see the doc will find his/her policy of jumpseat denial not worth the consequences of having to go to Ft. Worth and wonder if you will subsequently have a job.
 
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