2014 Pilot Discussion

[nycbusdriver]

There will be no question about Silver and her musings.

 
I would not count on the appeals court being very clear about anything.  I certainly doubt they will rule on Silver's dicta.  The might rule on Silver's actual ruling, but, if anything, they will probably confuse the entire thing even more with their own dicta and minority opinions (if any).
 
My bet is that they will take 18 months to turn the murky waters completely muddy.

 

[Phoenix]

Here we go, back to the 9th. Courtesy of Leonidas. Again.

 
 




[SIZE=13pt]Notice is hereby given that Plaintiffs Don Addington; John Bostic; Mark Burman; Afshin Iranpour; Roger Velez; Steve Wargocki; Michael J. Soha; Rodney Albert Brackin; and George Maliga, on behalf of themselves and all similarly situated former America West pilots, appeal to the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit from the Order entered on January 10, 2014 (Doc. 298), the final judgment entered on that same date (Doc. 299), and the order on a motion to correct/amend the judgment entered on March 31, 2014 (Doc. 304). [/SIZE]
[SIZE=13pt]Dated this 21st day of April, 2014. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=13pt]POLSINELLI, PC [/SIZE]
 
 
 
Time to step up the Liberty Necktie sales!!  If you are a Westie, prepare to shovel more good money after bad, and all the while still stagnate in PHX. 
 
All the risk...  All the risk.....  Allllllll the risk..  Let that sink in.

 

[snapthis]

Good.  Now the 9th will get  a chance to set Judge Silver straight in regards to her comments about representation.  I wondered how USAPA was going to get this done, since you really can't appeal a win.  This is actually great news for USAPA.

Yawn....

 

[traderjake]

All I can say is you remain the buffoon of the board. Hey, why don't you go buy one of those 675 dollar ties. Send them some money for their useless appeal.

 
Says the village idiot who thinks the way to protect APA pilots is the put us at the top of the list. 

 

[Phoenix]

 
I would not count on the appeals court being very clear about anything.  I certainly doubt they will rule on Silver's dicta.  The might rule on Silver's actual ruling, but, if anything, they will probably confuse the entire thing even more with their own dicta and minority opinions (if any).
 
My bet is that they will take 18 months to turn the murky waters completely muddy.

 
I suppose the Judges at the 9th know the difference between dicta, and ORDER and a JUDGEMENT.  If they comment at all it won't be on dicta, as you point out.
 
 
And I am not so sure the 9th per se' will cause more confusion, after all it was the 9th that explained exactly when the case would be ripe, but it was Judge Silver and the greedy lawyers who ignored the 9th and wasted untold amounts of money and time on an unripe case (again, despite Wake's blunder...).  Judge Wake started the West's money pit but it has been perpetuated by the enthusiasm of Marty Money Maker, Judge Silver, and Liberty Necktie crazies, but let us not forget the company and now the APA.  
 
The 9th (and the SCOTUS, by rejecting to hear the appeal) was the one objective force to provide stability.   If folks would obey the findings of the 9th then money and time would have been saved, but then think of all the jobs that would wither away.  😀

 

[Freighterguynow]

Yawn....

Your choice - open wide !

 

[luvthe9]

Says the village idiot who thinks the way to protect APA pilots is the put us at the top of the list.

Clueless again, you just don't stop I bet Munn is embarrassed of you for your dumb comments. Go to your room if you can't keep up. Show us ALL where I said we should go to the top, your a liar just like Munn we all know it.

 

[snapthis]

Says the village idiot who thinks the way to protect APA pilots is the put us at the top of the list.

Brasky says...
"I wondered how USAPA was going to get this done, since you really can't appeal a win"

Well, why would you? It's a win right?

Trader, I feel for you, man.View attachment 10162

You work with:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S4AmLcBLZWY

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Wilson is going to get educated about what an awesome job USAPA has done fending off the west with labor law. They are going to see what lies ahead if you don't get it like the West legal team and company did not. So far the APA is not very impressive.
That is unless the 9th kicks it right out.

My guess they boot it and don't even hear it!

 

[snapthis]

 

Your choice - open wide !

 
Dig deep.$$$$

I'll enjoy the show.View attachment 10163

 

[Phoenix]

Brasky says...
"I wondered how USAPA was going to get this done, since you really can't appeal a win"

Well, why would you? It's a win right?

Trader, I feel for you, man.

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You work with:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S4AmLcBLZWY

 
 
The defendants prevailed.  The company and the APA are pretending there was something in Silver's ORDER that said otherwise.  The court case you are looking for is in DC.  The case in DC will last much longer than your appeal to the 9th, and it will cost the members far less---not even one Liberty Necktie.  

 

[Phoenix]

Hey Snap....
 
How come USAPA has posted the Leospanker Notice of Appeal in the Legal Library, but Cactuspilot.com doesn't even have it posted yet on their own website?  And no meet and great scheduled to celebrate?   What gives?  If I buy a Liberty Necktie can you guys hire a new webmaster that can keep up?  

 

[snapthis]

 

Hey Snap....
 
How come USAPA has posted the Leospanker Notice of Appeal in the Legal Library, but Cactuspilot.com doesn't even have it posted yet on their own website?  And no meet and great scheduled to celebrate?   What gives?  If I buy a Liberty Necktie can you guys hire a new webmaster that can keep up?

I think an update is in the works.

Jamie's head would explode if you bought one of our ties. Is that what you want? 😉

 

[Freighterguynow]

Dig deep.$$$$I'll enjoy the show.

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Excellent ! A win win for us both.

Personally, I'd pissed if I were you that these AOL dudes just got your parole pushed back 18 months. Since the first joint 3 way bid was not planned until early 2016 you are now parked until late 2017 maybe 2018.

The head cheese stated PHL, CLT, LAX and DFW are slated to grow. JFK and PHX flat for the next 3 years.

Enjoy it, you paid for it.

 

[Black Swan]

I would not count on the appeals court being very clear about anything.  I certainly doubt they will rule on Silver's dicta.  The might rule on Silver's actual ruling, but, if anything, they will probably confuse the entire thing even more with their own dicta and minority opinions (if any).
 
My bet is that they will take 18 months to turn the murky waters completely muddy.

I think they are going to make things perfectly clear. They know the history on the crap about this case that continues to spin around the AZ courts and into their laps again. They seemed to enjoy spanking Wake. Maybe they will put it to rest this time with a real nice write up since the AZ judges can't seem to figure out
labor law.
Bottom line- I personally hope this keeps separate ops for five more years.